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SBS1 Client no longer sharing data - reminders/help please!

Started by andelscott, August 26, 2025, 11:26:59 AM

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andelscott

This might be a router / ports issue, but using SBS1c to feed both Kinetic Basestation software and FR24feed, I have lost connectivity with the receiver.  Basestation, when using USB connection to the receiver works fine.  The SBS1c app *appears* to have some data transfers, but nothing is showing on the Basestation, and fr24feed reports the receiver as 'down'.

Can anyone remind me what I've forgotten?  Only change is a new router after the old one failed - but SBS1c and Basestation software are on the same VM, so not sure why the're not on speaking terms.

Thanks in advance!

Anmer

I'm away from home at the moment with no access to any receivers or Basestation software.  Hence my limited response.

My guess is your new router is using a different IP address range to the SBSClient.

Check your IP address range.
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s92driver

Quote from: Anmer on August 27, 2025, 07:02:18 AMI'm away from home at the moment with no access to any receivers or Basestation software.  Hence my limited response.

My guess is your new router is using a different IP address range to the SBSClient.

Check your IP address range.

Good advice as usual from Anmer, as this was certainly the case when I moved from Sky to BT/EE recently.  The internal IP address range changed from 192.168.0.xxx to 192.168.1.xxx

Also worth checking that any fixed IP address instructions are captured.


Steve

andelscott

Thanks for the responses. Sadly it'd not the IP address - I have so many reserved addresses, ipconfig / ifconfig are probably the most used commands here! 😉

But fiddling, I can now share data to fr24feed, but aircraft data is not appearing on the Basestation software - which is a positive step regardless. Maybe a port issue. I recall port 20072 as the Basestation software input port (20062 for data feeds) but maybe I'm wrong.

Anmer

Check the IP address and port that Basestation is using.  Go to BaseStation settings.
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andelscott

Quote from: Anmer on August 27, 2025, 11:52:31 AMCheck the IP address and port that Basestation is using.  Go to BaseStation settings.

OK:

BASESTATION SOFTWARE
IP: 192.168.6.66 (the VM IP address - checked) - tried with localhost 127.0.0.1 to same effect
Port: 20072

SBS1c SHARING CLIENT
Port to mms.piopawlu.net   - 20077
'Additional configuration' - 20062 (fr24feed, etc. - working, with frfeed-status reporting receiver as 'connected' with 649507 MSGS/0 SYNC at last check)

Not sure why the router change would have impacted the Basestation, as both sharing client and Basestation are on the same VM (IP address unchanged).
All a bit frustrating as the Basestation display still 'rocks' - when working - despite its age.....

Anmer

As I mentioned I'm away so can't run any tests to confirm setup.

But if Basestation is looking for data on IP 192.168.66.6 on port 20072, is SBS Client making it available there?

And is BaseStation set to "Use Network"?
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andelscott

Thank you.  No need for an urgent response - the fr24 feed is working.  Just missing out on the local Kinetic display.

Basestation version 1.2.3.175

Yes, Basestation is set to 'USE NETWORK' - I don't recall the relevant setting in sbs1c.ini, but the Basestation was and is using port 20072.


sbs1c.ini

sbs1-on=1
sbs1-mode=usb
sbs1-host=192.168.6.64
sbs1-port=10001
sbs1-dev=000740B
mms2-on=1
mms2-feedonly=0
mms2-host=mms.piopawlu.net
mms-port=20077
mms2-username=[MYUSERNAME HERE]
mms2-password=[Base64 PASSWORD HERE]
bss-port=20062
show-popups=1
bs-path=
pp-mode=1
vhf=0
df17=0

The USB port is shown here is the VM host's IP address. Virtualbox shares the USB port to the VM (and SBS Client is seeing data) - the VM from which fr24feed grabs data. I can change the Basestation port to 20062, whereby Basestation intially shows data until the conflict with fr24feed causes it to lock up.

Anmer

SBS Client shared data automatically with FR24.  That was the quid pro quo.  Shared data for BaseStation in exchange for data to FR24.

FR24 (if I remember correctly) stopped accepting data from BaseStation.

How do you know your data is getting to FR24?  Do you have a sharing key?

Sorry, being away (for another week) means I'm trying to respond from memory which can play tricks!
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andelscott

Quote from: Anmer on August 28, 2025, 12:44:42 PMHow do you know your data is getting to FR24?  Do you have a sharing key?

I'm using the Linux fr24feed daemon (on the host server), receiving data from the SBS1 Client port 20062, and FR24 shows my online data status with 2,315 aircraft seen to 12:06 BST today.  It's just the Basestation software that's taking a holiday.

So, one or more of the following apply:
  • I've inadvertently changed the SBS Client configuration for Basestation;
  • I've blocked a port on the VM (seems unlikely);
  • SBS Clinet has stopped sending to that designated port (given that it doesn't appear in any configuration files);
  • Basestation software has forgotten how to access that port. Basically, I've lost track of the port options to get everything playing along together nicely; or
  • something else altogether!
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No rush - wait until you get home; I can do without the Basestation display for a week.  At least the data feed is alive.
Many thanks!

andelscott

Quote from: andelscott on August 29, 2025, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: Anmer on August 28, 2025, 12:44:42 PMHow do you know your data is getting to FR24?  Do you have a sharing key?

I'm using the Linux fr24feed daemon (on the host server), receiving data from the SBS1 Client port 20062, and FR24 shows my online data status with 2,315 aircraft seen to 12:06 BST today.  It's just the Basestation software that's taking a holiday.

So, one or more of the following apply:
  • I've inadvertently changed the SBS Client configuration for Basestation;
  • I've blocked a port on the VM (seems unlikely);
  • SBS Client has stopped sending to that designated port (given that it doesn't appear in any configuration files);
  • Basestation software has forgotten how to access that port. Basically, I've lost track of the port options to get everything playing along together nicely; or,
  • something else altogether!


ADDENDUM

The Basestation debug info shows:
[Date]:[Time]:MainSocket Connecting on 192.168.6.66:20072
[Date]:[Time]:MainSocketError: error on connection 192.168.6.66:20072(10061)
[Date]:[Time]:MainSocketError: error on connection 192.168.6.66:20072(10061)
[Date]:[Time]:MainSocket Disconnected

Connection attempts, and this sequence, repeats every 30 seconds.

END OF ADDENDUM


Still no rush - wait until you get home; I can do without the Basestation display for a week.  At least the data feed is alive.
Many thanks!

Anmer

Thanks.  If I've understood correctly:

SBS Client gets its data from your SBS receiver.  It then makes it available on a nominated port, in your case 20062.  The FR24 Linux feed gets its data from port 20062.

BaseStation is looking for data on port 20072.  But what's making decoded data available on that port?

Were you using anything else to do that?
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andelscott

Quote from: Anmer on August 29, 2025, 02:04:15 PMThanks.  If I've understood correctly:

SBS Client gets its data from your SBS receiver.  It then makes it available on a nominated port, in your case 20062.  The FR24 Linux feed gets its data from port 20062.

BaseStation is looking for data on port 20072.  But what's making decoded data available on that port?

Were you using anything else to do that?

Yes, that's correct - the SBS client made PlanePlotter/etc., data available on port 20062, which as you correctly state is the data source for fr24feed.  I thought that 20072 was the default Basestation data port for SBS client, but I can no longer locate the reference documnetation for that software! Only one client can use any port at a time, of course.

I did try using FR24feed's Basestation formatted data output (default: port 10001 on the Host machine) but, again, no data was displayed. It is looking more like a Basestation issue with tcp data, but why anything should have changed to block it is somewhat of a mystery. But then, it's also quite a miracle that the receiver is still working after running more or less 24/7 since I bought it - what a great piece of hardware!!

Anmer

Thanks again for more info.

The SBS must be working OK otherwise SBS Client wouldn't have any data for FR24.

I'll be home the week after next when I can offer more help with access to test equipment and software.  Can we pick this up again then?
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andelscott

Yes, please. There is no urgent rush; as you say, the receiver is working and the fr24feed is playing nicely, so it's just the old school Basestation display - I can always use Flightradar24 itself, for now. :)