I've been asked why I started Radarspotting.com.
It's quite simple. I want to help others get as much fun out of radarspotting as I've enjoyed since I bought my first Mode-S receiver in 2005.
At the beginning I was active on the Kinetic forum but frustrated by the lack of forum features and, at that time, very poor reliability. Then in March 2009, Hamish started Radarspotters which was supplier independent and with new features. I joined and became a Moderator.
Regrettably, in October 2011, due to poor health, Hamish decided to sell Radarspotters.
I'd been a moderator for nearly three years and when Hamish decided to sell, I made it perfectly clear that I might not continue under a new owner, especially someone new to the hobby.
The new owner, Danny Dineen never spoke to me or any other moderator before he took over and when he eventually made contact I told him I would probably step down. I genuinely felt he should be free to stamp his own identity on his new forum and not be lumbered with an "old guard". I was totally open and honest and told Danny what I was planning to do.
I waited to see how things would develop and soon realised Danny's plans for the forum differed from mine.
So I stood down as a Mod but retained my membership. I told the members what I was doing and left quietly - no negative posts or anything to undermine Danny. And I haven't posted since.
Now, three months later, I felt there was scope to open a new forum, focussed solely on aviation but with a different look and feel. I was also being repeatedly asked for copies of my Guides and needed somewhere to store them. Hence the new website and forum.
In all the time I was involved with Radarspotters I gave my time and advice freely just to try and help others. It was Hamish's forum and I fully respected his wish to take things easy and sell. It was his decision and I supported it.
Although I'm still a member of Radarspotters, my IP address has today been blocked and I can't access the forum let alone post messages. I've not broken any rules, just started this forum.
Sadly Radarspotters, started by Hamish to provide an independent platform for people to seek help and advice and, sometimes, vent frustrations, has succumbed to censorship.
We still operate in a free market and competition is good for everyone, including Danny Dineen who is a member here and free to post.
Update:
Since I made this post Dinneen has edited my Radarspotters' profile and changed my name to FormerMember and subsequently to Guest Poster, obviously not wanting his visitors to know his top poster was called Anmer. What a total prat.
Surely, Danny had the decency to inform you why your IP address had been blocked?
I'll take it from your dignified silence he didn't. :-X
Quote from: Sun Worshipper on February 01, 2012, 09:02:23 AM
I'll take it from your dignified silence he didn't. :-X
Not a word, in fact he sent me an email last night:
I have no wish to be drawn into some sort of conflict that appears to be starting. I am not focused on your new website and wish you the best of luck with your venture. You certainly have the experience required.
You left radarspotters.eu a long time ago, I respect your choice. I do however have a problem with you using the radarspotters.eu member list to attract members to your forum. You mass emailed all the radarspotters.eu members recently which is underhand. I respected your property when you left however you didn't do likewise. I would like an explanation please.
To reiterate, I have no ill feeling towards you and look forward to hearing from you. I would also be more than happy to discuss this matter either in person or on the phone. I will be in Liverpool on business in mid February if you wish to meet in person.
Reminds me of the emails Hamish and I used to get from AirNav's Brandao and Mark Francis of W&S.
Strange that he
doesn't want to be drawn into a conflict and
has no ill feeling towards me but arbitrarily blocks my access to Radarspotters? That doesn't add up for me.
And not a shred of evidence to back up his claim that I used the Radarspotters' members list. Does he not appreciate that I might have gathered numerous emails addresses when providing remote support, outline files, data sharing and making over 10,000 posts?
And he expects me to make a 400 mile round trip to meet him. He needs to get real.
Such a shame that Radarspotters is going the way of the Air Nav yes sir Forums.
It would seem that Dan isn't adverse to proactive e-mailing.
QuoteGood morning all, dont know if i really need a wake up call but am replying as dont want to be binned with all the dormant members
This was posted this morning and it gives me the impression that Dan e-mailed all 'dormant' members and told them unless they posted something pronto, they would be gone.
Now we know why there were so many intro e-mails since yesterday.
At the end of the day, all who are involved in this wonderful hobby know which sites have the most knowledgable members who can help them with their queries.
Don't let the bar stewards grind you down! ;D
Quote from: Sun Worshipper on February 01, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Don't let the bar stewards grind you down! ;D
They won't. Got my battle scars with You Know Who. :)
Bet my scars are bigger than yours... ;)
Quote from: Anmer on February 01, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
Quote from: Sun Worshipper on February 01, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Don't let the bar stewards grind you down! ;D
They won't. Got my battle scars with You Know Who. :)
Maybe he should be referred to as Macbeth, the name that's never mentioned!!
We used to call him "Pinky".
"Hot potato, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends-------" ;D
Welcome Anmer :D
Thanks for the new independent forum Anmer. :)
No offense Anmer, but you were gone at radarspotters without one word why or how this happened.
Now few months later you open your own forum, thats fine ofcourse, but at the same time do try to get members from radarspotters get into this forum.
As you have ofcourse all the emailadresses, as former moderator, thats a piece of cake.
But as you leave one forum, its not descent to use information, you had access to as moderator.
Again none of the mbers of R.S. did hear one word why you left, just gone within a minute.
Dont start a riot between radarspotters forums, they all have their own way of giving info etc.
On the R.S. forum there were some members who made it their 24Hrs task to spit on AirNav forum, imho its good that stopped, better start plain discussion, give info etc.
Thats what should happen on all radarspotters forums.
You know Anmer you were and still are well honoured by all radarspotter enthousiasts, keep it that way.
An independent radarspotter, jannuh
May I take this opportunity to say what a fabulous way of introducing yourself to this site, got to be one of the 'best' first posts I've seen in a while.
QuoteAgain none of the mbers of R.S. did hear one word why you left, just gone within a minute.
And we had some god given right to know this did we?
QuoteBut as you leave one forum, its not descent to use information, you had access to as moderator.
You have proof that this is the case?
I'm sorry jannuh but your posts in other websites would suggest to me you have come here to stir the $hit. If that's the case, please go back to radarspotters where I'm sure you'll be more appreciated.
Folks, That will be more than enough of the personal slights - lets draw a line under this please..
Thanks..
i get he same feeling from jannuh with all of his posts he does seem to have problems or indeed just enjoys sturing the brown stuff.
Quote from: jannuh on February 16, 2012, 11:13:19 AM
No offense Anmer, but you were gone at radarspotters without one word why or how this happened.
Welcome Jannuh.
I'm afraid you're incorrect. I did post that I was stepping down and wouldn't be posting again.
If I could access Radarspotters I'd post a link to my message.
Here's the link:
http://www.radarspotters.eu/forum/index.php/topic,2886.msg43089.html#msg43089
Tom
Thanks Tom, someone has sent me the text:
For me, this is my parting post.
I've been a member here since 9th March 2009, joining 4 days after Hamish started Radarspotters. I became a Moderator a few days later.
I've never met Hamish (though I hope to now he has more time) but he's always been there offering advice and respondng to ideas. Even when AirNav threatened us with "litigation" and, together with Waters & Stanton, spread lies and unfounded allegations about us personally, Hamish stood his ground. Thank you Hamish and may I, belatedly, join all the others and wish you all the best in your "retirement".
Now its Dan's turn to make his mark and I've decided to stand aside and let him have a free rein and not be landed with someone who was once referred to as "all old and not much left".
I made this decision before the karma change and had already advised Dan I'd be standing down as a moderator.
Good luck Dan.
I think that told everyone what I was going to do.
Mike : You stole the memberlist at radarspotters and are now using it to spam and poach these members.
Admit it.
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:14:38 PM
Mike : You stole the memberlist at radarspotters and are now using it to spam and poach these members.
Admit it.
I hope you have the proof to hand of that one. now its in type..
"You stole" ..
Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: "thieves stole her bicycle".
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
Let's let him answer the question.
The point stands Dan.. you cant just put something like that in type with out firm proof..
Quote from: Smudger98 on February 16, 2012, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
Let's let him answer the question.
The point stands Dan.. you cant just put something like tha in type with out firm proof..
I'll reply once he answers.
Then im going to have to remove it..
Interesting isn't it.
Here's Danny Dinneen posting unfounded allegations on the open forum but banning me form posting on his. Now who else used to adopt the same tactics?
I'll happily answer your question Danny, even though you have ignored my emails.
If you're satisfied that I "stole" or took you property without your permission, please contact the police.
Leave it stand Smudger.
Quote from: Anmer on February 16, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
Interesting isn't it.
Here's Danny Dinneen posting unfounded allegations on the open forum but banning me form posting on his. Now who else used to adopt the same tactics?
I'll happily answer your question Danny, even though you have ignored my emails.
If you're satisfied that I "stole" or took you property without your permission, please contact the police.
Leave it stand Smudger.
Mike : You stole the memberlist at radarspotters and are now using it to spam and poach these members.
Did you steal the memberlist?
Yes or No ?
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:28:48 PM
Yes or No ?
I'll defend myself in a court of law. I'm innocent until proven guilty.
I know that's not the sort of justice you like to meter out.
Why have you blocked my access to radarspotters?
Quote from: Anmer on February 16, 2012, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:28:48 PM
Yes or No ?
I'll defend myself in a court of law. I'm innocent until proven guilty.
I know that's not the sort of justice you like to meter out.
Why have you blocked my access to radarspotters?
Scared of being called a liar I see. Answer yes or no !
Let's make it simple.
Answer yes if your stole the radarspotters memberslist.
Answer no if you didn't.
Remember you reputation is based on this answer.
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:33:25 PM
Scared of being called a liar I see. Answer yes or no !
Why should I be scared of being called a liar by you or anyone else? You've libelled me.
You're making accusations. It's up to you to prove me guilty and if you're so sure of yourself, contact the police.
Are you scared of being asked why you blocked my access to Radarspotters? I've asked you a number of times and you refuse to reply.
Ok answer my question and I'll answer yours.
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:37:47 PM
Ok answer my question and I'll answer yours.
Show me yours and I'll show you mine. Grow up Danny.
It's simple. You're making serious, libellous accusations against me that should be dealt with in court. That's the right and proper place, not here and you know it.
Quote from: Anmer on February 16, 2012, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:37:47 PM
Ok answer my question and I'll answer yours.
Show me yours and I'll show you mine. Grow up Danny.
It's simple. You're making serious, libellous accusations against me that should be dealt with in court. That's the right and proper place, not here and you know it.
Your scared to answer. Be a man. I've made my accusation. Defend yourself. Your audience is waiting.
The truth always wins out.
Keep it up Dan. you're really showing yourself in a bad light.
What's your problem? You have 10 times as many members as us. Goliath vs David?
But just so you get my message.
If you think you can substantiate your accusations, go speak to your solicitor.
This is too serious for playground bullying.
I am now going to do some shopping so I won't be able to respond to Danny's childish posts until I return.
Getting a touch tedious now Dan.. one more and im going to lock the topic..
Dan,
I'm really disappointed in you. You are making false allegations which can only damage your reputation. If Anmer had mailed all members of Reachspotters this site would have a much larger membership by now.
Anmer and Hamish have been friends of mine over a period of a couple of years so you would have expected them to contact me but they didn't. I actually found this site by accident.
Tom
Same here Tom.. I found the site - it didn`t come too me by invite..
In fact it was Dan that told me about this place..!!
Viking9, believe me it's not a false allegation. It can only be false if it's disproven. It's hasn't been proven true or false yet.
Smudger, I'll stop asking as he won't answer. If only he would deny it.
Hamish and Mike made loads of friends on the old forum, people keep in touch by email, i for one have numerous email addresses made from people on open forums. Does this mean that anyone who emailed me, will mean i have stolen that email address, i think not.
Grow up Dan and put a sock in it.
I think what you have here an impostor posing as some one else; I wouldn't waste any more effort with this. Ireland, Northern Scotland Hummmmmmmm
Many found this site by a link on the Kinetic forum, myself included, after Hamish had posted how disappointed he was the way the Radarspotter's site was going, after the above outburst by Dan I am seeing where he was coming from.
I'm truely disappointed with your attitude Dan.
Mick
Mick,
My "outburst" was a yes or a no question that Mike ducked and dodged answering.
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
Mick,
Imagine your memberlist is stolen. Imagine then that these members are spammed by a rival. Would you would be disapointed, angry and upset also?
There is still that thing called decorum, jumping up and down and throwing your toys out of the pram will not do the future membership list a whole pile of good either will it..
Taking it
OFFLINE would have seemed a shed load more professional route to go..
Quote from: Smudger98 on February 16, 2012, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
Let's let him answer the question.
The point stands Dan.. you cant just put something like that in type with out firm proof..
Here is an extract from an email I recieved from Mike:Return-path: <info@radarspotting.com>
Envelope-to: danny@
Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:54:00 +0000
Received: from out-mta8.ai270.net ([94.126.40.175] helo=out-mta1.ai270.net)
In my country one is innocent until proven guilty whereas you're hanging me without a charge let alone a fair hearing.
As it happens I didn't use your mailing list so get your facts straight before you start making accusations.
Lets go back in time.From:Hamish
To:Anmer
Subject: C152
Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:30:21 GMT
Morning Mike,
your profiles C152, and my JIMI, now have all possible privileges on the forum, when they are online they will not show up a RED in the online list.A little bit of investigation by the new owner, if he knows what he is doing, will discover this.Hamish.
From:Anmer
To:Hamish
Subject: Re: C152
Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:57:35 GMT
Thanks.
From:Anmer
To:Hamish
Subject: Re: C152
Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:00:14 GMT
OK, will do. I have members emails and copies of some Admin/Mod posts that I may need later.From:Hamish
To:Anmer
Subject: Re: C152
Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:23:44 GMT
Great
I rest my case.
Now leave me alone and stop emailing radarspotters members
Quote from: Anmer on February 16, 2012, 01:10:37 PM
Thanks Tom, someone has sent me the text:
For me, this is my parting post.
I've been a member here since 9th March 2009, joining 4 days after Hamish started Radarspotters. I became a Moderator a few days later.
I've never met Hamish (though I hope to now he has more time) but he's always been there offering advice and respondng to ideas. Even when AirNav threatened us with "litigation" and, together with Waters & Stanton, spread lies and unfounded allegations about us personally, Hamish stood his ground. Thank you Hamish and may I, belatedly, join all the others and wish you all the best in your "retirement".
Now its Dan's turn to make his mark and I've decided to stand aside and let him have a free rein and not be landed with someone who was once referred to as "all old and not much left".
I made this decision before the karma change and had already advised Dan I'd be standing down as a moderator.
Good luck Dan.
I think that told everyone what I was going to do.
Smudger sent me already this link, I did PM him.
This farewell was hidden in a post about the "karma" thing", thats why I (and many other I think) never read it.
----------------------
To Sun Worshipper: shouldn't your alias be Radarspotting Worshipper, you're the local counterpart of our Big Irish friend in the AirNav forum ;-)
I think I've seen enough and will immediately cancel my membership to Radarspotters as I am fed up to the teeth with all the back biting and accusations flying around. I don't post on AirNav site but remain a member as I still have a RadarBox but I could do with reading less rubbish each day so, as I said Radarspotters will go
ps I have also been receiving direct emails from outside any forum from Anmer for years and consider him a friend....
Mike
I cancelled my membership to Radarspotters this morning, hopefully many more will do the same. >:(
QuoteLet's make it simple.
Answer yes if your stole the radarspotters memberslist.
Answer no if you didn't.
Remember you reputation is based on this answer.
Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan.
You are doing yourself no favours with this. In
England a man is innocent until proven guilty so as you have made the accusation, it's down to you to prove it.
Your outburst has done nothing to enhance your reputation so I wouldn't start worrying about Mikes if I was you.
Bottom line is prove it or shut it, your choice mate.
Right thats my Radarspotters membership cancelled...
Dan, Stick your site where the sun dont shine..
Quote from: Dan on February 16, 2012, 02:54:20 PM
In my country one is innocent until proven guilty whereas you're hanging me without a charge let alone a fair hearing.
As it happens I didn't use your mailing list so get your facts straight before you start making accusations.
And that's still the case.
I'll repeat this for the last time Danny.
If you wish to pursue your allegation that I "stole" your property, please report me to the police. I'm more than happy to see you in court. That's where I'll mount my defence, not here where you can present so-called "evidence" to bolster your allegations. You're presenting things totally out of context and that's why I'm not prepared to answer your allegations here.
By the way, do you make a habit of trawling through "Personal" messages that weren't meant for you? That must be a worry for your members.
And my last point.
Maybe if you hadn't blocked my Radarspotters access and refused to answer emails, I wouldn't have had to send the email. You've brought all this upon yourself.
Now why don't you go away, call your solicitor and focus on running Radarspotters. I'll do the same here.
[Any answers/questions should be done via PM or direct email]
Quote from: Brian on February 16, 2012, 04:56:59 PM
[Any answers/questions should be done via PM or direct email]
???
Quote from: Smudger98 on February 16, 2012, 04:19:25 PM
Right thats my Radarspotters membership cancelled...
Dan, Stick your site where the sun dont shine..
Me too! >:(
Please don't cancel your Radarspotters' memberships on my account. That's not what this is about.
Both forums can co-exist. Radarspotters is well established and has a bigger membership. It covers ship spotting too whereas Radarspotting specialises in aviation.
None of this would have blown up if Danny Dinneen hadn't arbitrarily blocked my access whilst proclaiming he supported free speech and everyone was welcome. He could have replied to my emails but chose to ignore them.
I really don't know what he has to fear.? Competition will make us all work harder to please our members.
I haven't cancelled my membership. But then again I can't. ???
should i staying or should i going? I only members here.
Quote from: thomasm on February 16, 2012, 06:21:14 PM
should i staying or should i going? I only members here.
It's not for us to tell you what to do, you'll make the right decision all by yourself.
Quote from: Anmer on February 16, 2012, 05:56:39 PM
Please don't cancel your Radarspotters' memberships on my account. That's not what this is about.
Mike,
I have not cancelled on your account. I have cancelled because Dan has done two things which I personally disapprove of.
1. He has repeatedly made accusations on a public forum without any proof.
2. He has betrayed the trust of members by publishing their personal messages. I could never trust him not to do the same with my personal messages in the future.
Tom
OK Tom.
Quote from: viking9 on February 16, 2012, 09:18:02 PM
Quote from: Anmer on February 16, 2012, 05:56:39 PM
Please don't cancel your Radarspotters' memberships on my account. That's not what this is about.
Mike,
I have not cancelled on your account. I have cancelled because Dan has done two things which I personally disapprove of.
1. He has repeatedly made accusations on a public forum without any proof.
2. He has betrayed the trust of members by publishing their personal messages. I could never trust him not to do the same with my personal messages in the future.
Tom
Its not often that I find myself agreeing with Tom.. :) But one this one I do..
Mike.. I have cancelled my account for much the same.. + an outburst such as Dan the ban has displayed shows no thought for either privacy or dignaty, hence the poke it post..
Smudger.
;D
Smudger. Your a true gentleman.
Quote from: mhm on February 17, 2012, 10:00:13 AM
Smudger. Your a true gentleman.
Just going to print off that bit of the thread as I dont often get compliments... 8)
Smudger, you're a true gentleman. :)
Quote from: kdt1 on February 16, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
I think what you have here an impostor posing as some one else; I wouldn't waste any more effort with this. Ireland, Northern Scotland Hummmmmmmm
Well I guess I was wrong and Dan confirmed that, I thought for a moment Pat the (poodle) had slipped in under the radar.
So obviously Anmer used the RS member list to get the word out about the new forum I think he is certainly entitled to use it as he painstakingly
built a majority of that following. The word stole is far too heavy in this matter and that Dan is were the problem lies.
I can't fault the man (Dan) with being upset but as Frank (old blue eyes) says that's life.
:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Oh ya got love the blue guys ........................ Cheers
I don't think the Poodle has got past our door yet.
As I've already said, if Dan has evidence that I stole anything, he knows where to report it.
And if he's upset that I emailed some Radarspotters', maybe he shouldn't have blocked my access and not replied to my emails whilst proclaiming he was an advocate of free speech.
Cancelling Radarspotters Memberships
I see there are a few members wanting to cancel their Radarspotters' membership but can't.
There's an SMF forum setting that either requires admin approval or not when a member deletes his or her account.
Radarspotters has this set and all the administrator has to do is approve a deletion. From what I've observed, the forum owner is ignoring such requests.
Alternatively send him a Personal Message asking him to delete the account and confirm by email. He may ignore the PM just as he's ignored my emails asking why I can't login to my account.