Much later than originally announced, the RadarBox aircraft tracking website has just been launched as a beta.
I'm not sure the likes of Flightradar24.com, Planefinder.net and the other receiver manufacturers would agree with this claim:
"Unlike with other online flight trackers, RadarBox24 doesn't have data inconsistencies caused from volunteer data feeders using external unreliable hardware and software"
But then again, we're used to AirNav spinning.
And let's hope that this "launch" means that we can expect a new release of the RadarBox Windows software. Especially as it's our data that AirNav is using in RadarBox24.com without our express permission.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7281.msg86040#msg86040
Maybe it's just the autumn weather, but I feel another complaint to the ASA is just around the corner
;)
AirNav is inviting us to "Sign Up" for more features.
Bearing in mind this is a website page and not software, only AirNav would ask us to agree to the following "Terms". Talk about using a sledge hammer to crack a nut!
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Don't see the option to turn off the FAA ASDI data feed!
Can't add any filter to only show those flights. Just have to pick one of those default options on the list :(
The site is also using cookies and isn't complying with EU requirements.
Read some other comments on these threads to read in the free time about RB24....
http://www.yssyforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=8823
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=475406
http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=105048
http://www.radarbox.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1274
http://forums.radioreference.com/aircraft-data-decoding/253561-new-flight-monitoring-website.html
http://derbosoft.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=otheraviation&action=display&thread=11057
http://www.transmission1.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=32310
http://forum.adsbradar.ru/f9/cervis-radarbox24-com-beta-testirovanie-1103/
http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/topic45780-2.html
http://www.fsboards.de/24338-radarbox24-com-die-alternative-zu-flightradar24.html#post272194
http://aviacaoportugal.net/showthread.php?t=6544
http://www.avsim.su/forum/topic/128280-radarbox24/
http://www.fs-flightcrew.de/index.php?page=Thread&postID=165726
http://www.niaviation.co.uk/index.php?topic=8013.0
http://radarboxbrasil.com/nblog/blog/2012/11/19/airnav-lanca-novo-site-para-acompanhar-voos-em-tempo-real/
Don't forget you can also use these domains to get to the RB24 site.
http://www.virtualradar24.com
http://www.virtualradar24.net
http://www.rb24.com
RadarBox24 Facebook and Twitter:
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24
https://twitter.com/radarbox24
Quote from: Brian on November 20, 2012, 05:24:00 AM
Some other comments on these threads to read in the free time about RB24....
http://www.yssyforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=8823
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=475406
http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=105048
Of which two are posts by Desparate Dan to spam his forum and do AirNav's bidding. ;D
So much for AirNav's claim: :)
"Unlike with other online flight trackers, RadarBox24 doesn't have data inconsistencies caused from volunteer data feeders using external unreliable hardware and software"
"There appears to be an error displaying the flight path/history, possibly when aircraft cross the 180East/West line. A Lan Chile flight (LAN800) displaying around New Zealand seems to have gone from South America to NZ and Australia direct and also via the South Pole several times!
Could just be something to do with the aircraft/flight, but it seems to be normal on the radarbox when it's around this way."
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7284.msg86095#msg86095
I think they should have given it to Rod Bearden to Beta test, he seems to be able to find all the bugs :)
I agree Ian. Mind you, the bugs were jumping off the screen as soon as I opened the page.
So much for the RadarBox24 beta team. :)
Jeez, what a set of terms, didn't realise Brandao had as big an attention span to create that pile of rubbish.
I know this is still a beta release but really?
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Try using the "Simple" aircraft icon type for that level of zoom.
Quote from: tarbat on November 24, 2012, 10:20:56 AM
Try using the "Simple" aircraft icon type for that level of zoom.
Why? The other sites don't suffer the same problem. It's a bug and I'm sure you'd agree?
It's definitely a bug, I'd say a centipede by the looks of things ;)
In all seriousness, the website has been very slow to display aircraft from day one, and today I gave up after 5 minutes with the map screen stuck on "initializing".
This RadarBox24.com project raises some important questions for the RadarBox customer base:
1. Why should we pay for the delayed or live network when the data is available for free on RadarBox24.com?
2. If the beta turns into a subscription based website, should we be paid by AirNav for our data? Don't forget every RadarBox user has to remember to turn off data sharing everytime the software is started.
3. What would happen if the majority of RadarBox customers turned off data sharing?
4. With RadarBox sales at a standstill, how is AirNav going to compete with Planefinder.net and Flightradar24.com who get feeds from different makes of receiver and not just RadarBox?
Be interesting to see how this pans out.
On the plus side, I mst say I'm impressed by the cockpit view... Much better than FR24.
In particular being able to 'see' other aircraft, and having the airports highlighted in yellow. A very good idea.
FR24, you'll have to do some more work ! ;-)
Regards, Greg.
Unfortunately, "Pilot View" has a bug (surprise, surprise).
I was using Pilot View to watch a Ryanair flight land at Girona, but at 800ft coverage was lost. However Pilot View merrily had the aircraft crash into the terrain just short of the runway. :o
"- Direct competition: there several other sites competing directly with RB24. We intend to bring a more professional approach to this area. RB24 is the only web based flight tracker developed by professional pilots;"
And so was ShipTrax 8)
What a total load of tosh. I'd prefer Brandao stuck to the day job. Or maybe he should start writing customer service call logging systems?
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7295.msg86408#msg86408
"Below we share photos of RadarBox brand new reception station located in Faial Island, Azores, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. We recorded flights almost 400 NM away from the station location and because of it we've significantly improved our coverage of the Central Atlantic (flights from Southern Europe to the US and from all Europe to the Caribbean)."
Just to compare RadarBox24.com coverage of the Azores with the two main competitors, which weren't developed by professional pilots. 8)
But how come the other two have more aircraft over the Azores? Ignore the green ones on RadarBox24.com, they come from the FAA ASDI feed which we can't turn off.
It also illustrates that the other two products have significantly more aircraft than AirNav (I turned off the ASDI feeds for these).
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7298.msg86436#msg86436
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Whoop de doo, just what I want to see, aircraft buzzing the Azores.
C'mon you lying toad Brandao, fix the RB bugs you promised way back instead of pushing your latest folly.
I see there's a (hardly) used ShipTrax receiver being sold by ML&S for just £199.95:
http://www.hamradio.co.uk/used-equipment/airnav/airnav-shiptrax-used-pd-4984.php
Tomorrow will be three years since the last RadarBox software update. No bug fixes let alone new features for three years. In case anyone's forgotten, AirNav used to brag that "work never stops".
First it was ShipTrax and now RadarBox24.com, both seen by Brandao as a new, rich revenue seam. ShipTrax was sinking before it was launched and I suspect RadarBox24.com has missed the boat too. No puns intended.
http://www.radarspotters.eu/forum/index.php/topic,6252.225.html
There's two ways of viewing this sorry stae for Brian and Lou. You either feel sorry for them or you think, you've been around long enough to know what Air Nav are like, what ever possessed you?
Whichever way you cut it, Brandao has had their trousers down!
Looks like this thread was deleted over at Airliners.net forum.
the title was...
New RadarBox24 Online Flight Tracker
1 day ago – It that the the company that develops the RadarBox ADS-B receiver, has released in beta mode a new web based flight tracker. It has a very ...
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5622697/
[RadarBox24 update]
Now available to only show the ADS-B data on RadarBox24.com / RB24.com
Under the 'options'>'Filter' tab.
[] ADS-B Aircraft Only
RadarBox24.com / RB24.com FlightID Tip:
Just add any 'FlightID' on the end of the URL, and it will find it on the map.
https://www.radarbox24.com/BAW828
https://www.radarbox24.com/N575WB
https://www.radarbox24.com/UAL115
...etc
I see the message is beginning to sink in:
"I am not happy at all with this radarbox24.com you pay the price for the box and then this gets released for free wow, are we gonna be getting free subscriptions for fr24 network or something along them lines because this is bang out of order."
Not only that, it's the price we paid for the box that's underpinning the whole thing. Stop AirNav stealing our data by turning off the default data sharing and see what happens!
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86581#msg86581
Just checking my junk mail and found one from Airnav.. seems the right to Keep it..!! ;D
Log in to leave feed back eh.. i cant i`m banned..!!
RadarBox24.com has been released in beta mode (meaning we are still improving it).
It's the first online flight tracker developed by aviation professionals and fully using data from our ever growing worldwide RadarBox ADS-B network (in addition to FAA Radar and Oceanic Data).
Visit the new system at:
www.radarbox24.com
At this time we are asking our forum members to send their feedback regarding the new system, it's features and how it performs on their computers and tablets.
Please share your opinion at the newly created RadarBox24 facebook and twitter accounts:
http://www.facebook.com/radarbox24
http://www.twitter.com/radarbox24
Or at RadarBox24 forum:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?board=19.0
RadarBox24 Feature list:
- Fully featured web based flight tracker
- Real-time departure/arrival events
- Professional aviation layers including airspace boundaries, NAT tracks and navigation aids
- Full search functionality: search for a flight, city or airport
- Position estimates over remote oceanic areas
- Possibility of saving your favorite locations
- Continuous network growth thanks to new RadarBox receivers being daily all over the world
- Aircraft photos and data source information
- Detailed data source information
Waiting for your feedback.
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You can view the full announcement by following this link:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7317.0
Regards,
The AirNav Systems Forum Team.
They're beginning to wake up. But wait until the formal product launch and the fees AirNav is going to charge for our data.
"I'm with djnixy on this. This is a new low for those of us who purchased Radarbox and paid our subscription year over year. Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted to see new apps coming along to get more people interested in the subject, but wow, never have I felt so TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF as a loyal customer! Why would I bother uploading data from my RadarBox anymore??? So I pay RadarBox to give them data so that they can provide it to others so that they can have the FREE SERVICE that I'm paying for? You gotta be kidding me? This is a wind up! Am I on candid camera or something? Michael O'Leary in RyanAir can learn from this one!!!! I can't see myself renewing a subscription after this."
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86722#msg86722
Looks like AirNav's "little helper" is letting the cat out of the bag :)
"To receive the RB network via the box users require to have a box and to subscribe. Why then should none box users and non-subscribers get the data freely?
Once we get beyond the Beta stage, I feel that instead of being available to just anyone it should be available solely to subscribers and those who upload the data from their RB."
I can't wait for the "official" announcement. Should stir things up a bit. ;)
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86777#msg86777
Interesting debate on AirNav forum about aircraft labels.
I'd have thought it was a "no brainer".
But then again, Brandao took his eye off the ball for a couple of years as Flightradar24.com and Planefinder.net ate his lunch. 8)
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg86878#msg86878
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More and more RadarBox customers complaining about our data being used for RadarBox24.com:
"Sorry for my bad english, i hope all understand it.
I bought a more expensive box because I enjoy it. but now I see how my data are commercially processed here on. in my box software I must content myself ugly airplane pictures. in the project from radarbox24, great aircraft are preview images. great preview window and and and.
Conclusion, I let my box also made first!
We should not turn on all the box for a week, let's see if it is still a great air traffic at radarbox24.
Customers who prefer the support of a lot of money to buy boxes!!
SHAME SHAME SHAME AIRNAV !"
Then AirNav tries to assure us that only the beta is free and everything will be different when it gets finally released. BUT.
How will the customer base feel when AirNav starts selling RadarBox24.com and mobile apps? More revenue for AirNav, stealing our data and still charging for the RadarBox networkbut still no RadarBox software update for over 3 years? I wonder?
"As explained RB24 is open to the public without any cost, or without having a RB subscription in the BETA test phase.
This is NOT a permament solution, so those complaining in there posts need to understand this first. We are listening to suggestions from RB customers who are key in feeding RB24 to how it can be used after the beta period. "
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86937#msg86937
Another one upset....
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I didn't renew my subscription for World Wide RadarBox 3D Data Access when my 1 year free subscription that came with the RadarBox expired.
The next day, AirNav cut me off from the Network - fair enough - you get what you pay for. If you don't pay, you don't get it.
It doesn't bothers me because I have other sources of data access.
But, today I made a Shocking discovery -
- AirNav took Data from my RadarBox 3D without my permission to feed into RadarBox24.com.
Today, I turned on Radarbox24.com and found there is not a single plane around Singapore WSSS FIR - even though I can see planes from my room window.
I decided to launch my AirNav Radarbox 3D program and saw planes around WSSS FIR on my screen.
When I switched over to RadarBox24.com screen -
Wow !
Just like David Copperfield, I saw RadarBox24.com screen populated with planes similar to those on my AirNav RadarBox 3D screen.
I thought my eye were doing tricks on me -
So, I turned OFF my Radarbox 3D program - all the planes disappeared from RadarBox24.com screen.
I turned ON & OFF my Radarbox 3D program a couple of times - and confirmed these data are from my Box.
Hello - guys from AirNav - you are not being fair to me -
1). You decided NOT to give me a FREE Box - fair enough - I have already purchased my own Box.
2). You decided NOT to give me a free Antenna - fair enough - you don't make the antenna and it cost more than the box.
3). You decided to CUT me OFF the world wide Data network - fair enough - because I didn't pay for it.
But, taking data from my BOX without my permission to feed the World Wide Network of RadarBox24.com -
- is NOT fair to me.
Birdie
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http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7360.msg87053#msg87053
https://www.radarbox24.com/WSSS
Not only is AirNav trying to play catch up with FR24 and Planefinder (3 years too late), it's stealing our data and *issing off the very people it needs to make RB24 work.
Anyone with an ounce of sense would have released an update to the RadarBox software and stopped charging for network access before launcing RB24. Something about a goose and golden eggs springs to mind.
But no, Brandao is too greedy and lacks the essential ingredients.
And having just undertaken a detailed comparison of RB24, FR24 and Planefinder, he's still got a lot more catching up to do.
Make a note of the reference to "RadarBox Owners". I suspect it will morph into "RadarBox Sharers" later:
"I just want to jump in and remind everyone that, while we are testing RB24, it's freely available with all features to everyone so we can get a broad range of feedback from all users. After we get enough feedback and test the infrastructure (such as testing & tuning server performance, server reliability, etc), we will move to next phase of deployment. All RadarBox owners will be considered premium users and have access to all features/options. The guest/free account will still be available, but it will be more limited that it is now (how much more limited is still being determined--please provide feedback on this too if you have any).
If you, as RadarBox owners, have any special feature requests that only RadarBox owners will have access to, please let us know so we can develop these features for you. We have some exciting features in the pipeline for RadarBox owners, but we haven't yet fully completed them. Obviously we just cannot make everyone happy, but our RadarBox customers are number one priority and we want to provide you with all of the features we can."
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg87029#msg87029
I've just noticed the latest RadarBox24.com advert which claims to have "10,000 RadarBox units streaming real-time flight data from over 100 countries".
Amazing if it were true. By my calculations there are less than 3,000 RadarBox units sold and at best 500 "streaming flight data" at any one time. More highly misleading claims from AirNav which I doubt it can substantiate.
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If the ip adress is known to which the data is uploaded can't you put that adress in your hosts file and refer it to 127.0.0.1 to stop the unwanted sharing ?
Quote from: DdePruis on December 21, 2012, 06:54:46 PM
If the ip adress is known to which the data is uploaded can't you put that adress in your hosts file and refer it to 127.0.0.1 to stop the unwanted sharing ?
Why? If the software has an option to stop uploading data it should respect our wishes.
Saw this in the source code...
It's telling you how to do it on the source page. Not listed on the main page yet...
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RadarBox Receiver Account
Already own a RadarBox Receiver?
Link your RB24 account to your RadarBox!
RadarBox Username:
RadarBox Password:
list radarbox(s) here
[Add another RadarBox]
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RadarBox Station Information
STATION NAME
The owner of this RadarBox station has not published any information.
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view-source: https://www.radarbox24.com/
Busy morning over South East England?
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Looks like the legitimately disgruntled remembering to untick "share flight data".
Quote from: Bethsalem on December 22, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Looks like the legitimately disgruntled remembering to untick "share flight data".
None of those plots have moved all morning and I read the RadarBox network is down too.
AirNav claims it did a newsletter promoting RB24 and the huge demand crashed the servers.
Leadership in Flight Tracking my backside. ;D
Three hours later and the RB24 screen is still frozen and the RadarBox network is down too.
But nothing from AirNav to explain what's going on even though the Status page says everything is Online. >:(
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What a coincidence, we just got a statement from AirNav which contradicts the Status page:
"We are investigating this, we apologise for the down time. We have been experiencing high traffic loads since last night.
We will provide an update as soon as we can. "
Capacity planning (or lack of)?
Very sad it's down this holiday weekend and no word from AirNavSystems about it. >:(
Not one word on the AirNav Systems twitter / Facebook page.
https://twitter.com/AirNavSystems
https://www.facebook.com/airnavsystems
Well one note from 4 hours ago and 2 hours ago on the RadarBox24 facebook page.
Maybe it should have posted it on the main AirNav Systems company facebook page!
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"At this time and due to the extremlly high number of visits to RadarBox24.com website we are experiencing a flight data outage. We are working on this issue and we will port an update when we have more news. Our apologies for this fact."
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"RadarBox24.com We are continuing to work on this issue and it is possible that the server feeding data to RB24.com will continue to be down for the next 2 hours. We will keep posting updates on this portal."
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RadarBox24.com The Radarbox server has a defect at this time which is being worked on. Normal service will resume ASAP
26 minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/259014574227352
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24
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Nothing posted on the RadarBox24 twitter page.
https://twitter.com/radarbox24
No AIS logging this weekend AIS spotting trip. >:(
We can't use AirNav ShipTrax software when the AirNavSystems.com server is down. Due to no backup server plans on AirNavSystem's part :(
The AIS data feed on the Shipspotting AIS map is down due to AirNavSystems.com server being down too!
[update]
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RadarBox24.com The Radarbox server has a defect at this time which is being worked on. Normal service will resume ASAP
26 minutes ago
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/259014574227352
http://www.airnavsystems.com/ (http://www.airnavsystems.com/) has been down for a while now as well...
From DaveReid:
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"RadarBox - the only ADS-B flight tracker developed by part-timers"
There has been practically no traffic on the AirNav network, or on RadarBox24.com, for more than 24 hours now. The AirNav website and forums are down, as is the status page, and there's no mention at all on their Twitter page of any problems.
Looks like the CEO is off flying somewhere and can't get home to fix it.
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No RadarBox24.com for 24 hours. >:(
Maybe it should be renamed "RadarBoxDown24Hours.com"?
And no forum and no server for RadarBox software to get pictures, routes etc.
I did find the following on AirNav's Facebook page but no update in 12 hours.
Utter shambles and now the loyal customers are suffering to feed Brandao's greed. ShipTrax was a total failure and now RadarBoxDown24Hours.com has screwed up for everyone.
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Latest "news" on AirNav Facebook.
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The AirNav site has probably been taken offline to stop the mass of complaints on the forum!!
:-\
[Newer update]
Work continues on server maintenance. A lot of progress is being made. We will keep you informed when we have more news. Your RadarBox24.com will soon become available again.
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/259466160848860
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[older update]
Unfortunately we are still having maintenance issues with our central flight data server. One of the several HD that powers it crashed earlier today and is still being recovered. The backup servers will not work with this piece of hardware unavailable. It might take a few more hours for the situation to be restored.
RadarBox24.com There has been a major server failure corrective action is underway but it is unlnown at this time when normal service will be resumed
RadarBox24.com Unfortunately we are still having maintenance issues with our central flight data server. One of the several HD that powers it crashed earlier today and is still being recovered. The backup servers will not work with this piece of hardware unavailable. It might take a few more hours for the situation to be restored.
RadarBox24.com Correct, RB24, RB and Network all from the same server which is defective
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/259305677531575
AirNav Systems posted two things on the RadarBox24 Twitter page today.
https://twitter.com/radarbox24
https://twitter.com/RadarBox24/status/282923197765124096
https://twitter.com/RadarBox24/status/282792932493361153
What a surprise.
AirNav has deleted my posts it's Facebook page and blocked me from posting.
Nothing changes. Maybe it should remember I am a RadarBox owner.
[comment from RB24's Facebook]
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Peter Backx hope it don't take as long as it take's to fix the bugs in ANRB
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https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/259466160848860
[Monday updates:]
RadarBox24.com Unfortunately once we investigated the problem wee found things were worse than we first thought and have had to install and configure a totally brand new server because both the main server and backup server crashed.
8 hours ago
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RadarBox24.com However things are progressing well. Some services will already be active now and slowly we will get there during the next 8 hours
8 hours ago
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/259305677531575
[Some updates being posted around the web from AirNav Systems on the Forum/Facebook.]
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RadarBox24.com
4 hours ago
RadarBox resumes normal operations at this time. All services working normally. We are just waiting to start getting FAA radar data again which should happen within the next 24 hours.
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/260321714096638
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Posts by AirNav Development:
RadarBox Main Server Outage - Update
As you may be aware we had a serious server outage during the last 2 days.
It was initially caused by the huge numbers visiting the RB24.com site which caused Airnav Systems main data server to fail. We tried to bring it up during the next 2 hours but every attempt was unsucessful.
We had to bring 3 new servers to face the huge demand we expect and are expecting because of RB24.com release.
The bad news: we were out of network for 2 days.
The good news: our infratructure is growing and hopefully being more reliable and with more redundancy.
At this time almost all services are up and running except for our FAA flight data connection which will have to wait 24-48 more hours.
Again we really thank you for all your understanding.
We will continue to work hard to bring new developements to the RadarBox family.
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There is a final issue which is not allowing some RB software to access the network. It's a server problem and we are working on it.
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All should be working now. Pls confirm.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7374
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We are working hard to deply the new servers. Work is progressing quite well today and we should have good news later today. We will keep you updated and as usually tsk a lot for all your understanding.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7370.msg87303#msg87303
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testing the AirNav servers. you can see it's back online via these URL's
Network Data
http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/ANLV_SV/ANLV_SV_user.exe?usgetfile=0&USemail=PGANRB100001&ProgVers=ANRB403&ReqANRBData=0
Not sure if the photos are working at this time ?
http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/ANLV_SV/Photo/N1757.jpg
I can confirm the Aircraft Alerts and Daily Log emails working at this time.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mode_s/
http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/ANLV_SV/Photo/N385AM.jpg
I've just tried RadarBox24.com and I can see 0 aircraft?
Even though AirNav claims everything is back to normal.
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No flights showing for me either ???
AirNav Facebook saying everything is back to normal but still no aircraft showing in RadarBox24.com.
Still showing zero aircraft
And still AirNav tries to hoodwink everyone.
And I see AirNav is deleting any Facebook posts that it doesn't like. Pity it doesn't follow advice from others about deleting "negative" posts:
"If you're going to create a forum where customers can discuss your business, you should be open to allowing that discussion to be negative. "
"Nope don't delete it- how can you claim to be transparent and in touch with people if you don't address their concerns?"
"However, I think legitimate complaints should be left and responded to. "
"If it is critical or negative, leave it up, but respond to it. "
"Responding professionally to negative comments is more 'comforting' for potential consumers, IMO, because a fan page of just 'sweetness and light' is untrustworthy. "
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The peasants are revolting.....
They cannot hide from a forum like this.
We tell it like it is, posts are not deleted because of negative posts.
Airnav beware you are being found out. People are not buying your goods, because the truth is being aired on this forum.
RadarBox24 seems to be working again.
Alleluia :-*
This page isn't being updated anymore? Maybe it's still down?
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network.php
Brian, all well this morning with RadarBox24. Refreshing normally and aircraft details showing.
Compared to my SBS-3 data, the RadarBox24 aircraft are plotting with a 30 second delay.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Just check an aircraft crossing a coastline or country border.
I'm finding it so slow as to be unusable. It's been stuck on "initializing...." for the last minute or so, so I can't even check if there's a 30 second delay.
It's now initialized after approximately 3 minutes. There is a delay with aircraft plotting. For instance an Easyjet flight into Barcelona I'm seeing on my Beast at 4000ft and on RB24 he's further out and at 6250ft.
Looks like RB24 has gone AWOL again. All I'm getting is "Initialising" and others are reporting problems on the AirNav Facebook page.
Comments on the mobile facebook page.
http://m.facebook.com/RadarBox24?v=timeline&filter=2&refid=17
Why I think RadarBox24 has missed the boat.
Facebook pages for RadarBox24, Planefinder.net and Flightradar24.com.
I'll post the same "stats" in a week's time.
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QuoteWhy I think RadarBox24 has missed the boat.
Maybe were can track it on Ship Trax. ???
Talking of ST, just noticed no-one has posted anything on the Air Nav ST site since 6th October. That could mean one of two things, everyone is fed up with Brandao's antics or hardly anyone has a box. My guess is that it's both. 8)
Just discovered that AirNav's found another "volunteer" to support RadarBox24.
"Probably it's a good idea here to create new side views or 3D liveries ourselves and send it to AirNav?
I do it for a long time and really enjoy AirNav support in this. At least two dozens of new side views for Russian carriers were displayed in the past week on RB24. And the delay between my sending and displaying is just a few hours.
I am working right now on the next package."
Compare.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7393.msg87633#msg87633
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Why I think RadarBox24 has missed the boat.
Facebook pages for RadarBox24, Planefinder.net and Flightradar24.com.
A week later, RadarBox24 gets another 51 likes, Planefinder 167 and Flightradar24 3,004.
No contest.
http://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24
http://www.facebook.com/PlaneFinder
http://www.facebook.com/flightradar24
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These domains isn't loading the RadarBox24 tracking site anymore. It's still down today!
Shouldn't take this long to get all the RB24 domains working correctly.
http://www.virtualradar24.com/
http://www.virtualradar24.net/
I wonder how long it will be before most of the airnav brigade turn to the cheaper dongle. At least they will be able to mlat for free.
Boy would that be a sting in the tail for Airnav, not being able to get free info
My guess is that 70% of RadarBox and SBS owners don't visit forums and are blissfully unaware of the newer, competing products or the AirNav server problems.
Ooops forgot to include it on my site. I will sort that out tonight, giving it a good report. ;D
[Update image on RB24 facebook page]
RadarBox24 is growing fast. Thanks for your support!
2 Months
100 000 visitors
7 000 accounts
1 000 facebook likes
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=286778811450928
Quote from: Brian on February 12, 2013, 05:49:56 AM
[Update image on RB24 facebook page]
RadarBox24 is growing fast. Thanks for your support!
2 Months
100 000 visitors
7 000 accounts
1 000 facebook likes
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=286778811450928
We all know that Air Nav are economical with the truth so I would view these figures with a large pinch of salt.
What were the odds of all three rounding to whole thousands at the same moment in time? Amazing.
Strange, no reply to this post on the RB24 Facebook page:
" I bought your receiver back in 2008. If I remember correctly it used to be about 400-550 feeders connected to the network at that time. Today there are about 280-440 according to RadarBox Network (http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network.php) (my box is broken so I can't check)
But you claim that you have "10 000 RadarBox units streaming Real-Time flight data" (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/otb81)
Where are all these feeders? How come that the number has decresed if RadarBox is "The world's most popular Mode-s - ADS-B receiver" and you claim that "AirNav Flight Tracker Software - The Most Trusted Name In Flight Tracking"?
I've just checked the AirNav sharer stats and there's another remarkable coincidence.
The stats for today exactly match those for 2nd January 2013. Amazing.
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From RadarBox24 Facebook page:
RadarBox24.com We are developing RadarBox24 for the iOS (iPhone + iPad). Should be released in 3 months. After taht, Android.
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/546207032066403?comment_id=91061997
RadarBox24.com The playback feature will be released 2-3 weeks.
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/546207032066403?comment_id=91062911
*Wonder if those two items will be released on time*
It's always fatal when Air Nav give actual dates for planned releases.
I could cite past misdemeanours but it would run to a very long list.
My advice would be don't believe ANY dates that come from Air Nav, they are pure works of fiction (aka lies).
akzah tried posting about RB24 on this forum... well tried too!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JWj52dvoIJkJ:www.pprune.org/jet-blast/509867-radarbox24.html
http://www.pprune.org/members/78076-akzah
QuoteHi Guys,
Just came across RadarBox24.com - Pure ADS-B Flight Tracker
Great site if you want to track flights which are sending ADS-B data in Europe and FAA tracked flights in the US. Just spent ages watching the skies across the UK and middle east, soo many Emirates flights
akzah = AirNavSupport person... but doesn't talk about RB24 on his own site for some unknown reason
Akbar Sherwani - Developer Blog "Radarbox" view hasn't been updated since 2011 !!!
http://www.akzah.com/blog/static.php?page=radarboxLondon
Was the post deleted?
RB24 Notes:
March 23, 2012
We are today migrating RadarBox24.com to brand new servers so you can experience the site in a faster way. Because of this some outages may occur. The migration process will be finished during the next 24 hours.
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/305433432918799
It's interesting that Facebook users get these announcements but the RadarBox forum doesn't?
So where's AirNav's main focus I wonder?
Sales of RadarBox24 access and apps or RadarBox software upgrades?
RB24 added the "Timeline" playback for free account users.
I can't quite get my head around AirNav's latest claims.
It says RadarBox24 is powered by "thousands" of RadarBox receivers located all over the world".
Strangge that Flightradar24 seems to have far more aircraft from only 1,300 feeders.
But more interestingly, AirNav makes a big play of not suffering from "data inconsistencies caused from volunteer data feeders using unreliable hardware and software". Fair enough but why then is it actively seeking data from these same "volunteer data feeders"?
I wonder how the RadarBox community will react when they see SBS-1/3, Beast and microADSB feeders getting free RadarBox24 access and other goodies while they're still waiting for the RadarBox software bugs to be fixed?
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Well spotted Anmer, it's good that you've pointed out the fallacy of their statements.
They shouldn't be allowed to make false claims and the more places it is raised the better informed potential customers are.
Cheers,
Keef.
It was posted by RB24 few days ago on March 27 at 12:49am. Anmer is just slow posting about it few days later ;)
https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/451865371567565
but again it's fun watching AirNav Systems play these games with other companies or users or stats.
It's about time everyone turned of their boxes and see what he has left
Quote from: Brian on April 01, 2013, 05:16:12 AM
Anmer is just slow posting about it few days later ;)
I didn't know there was a race?
But at least I was quicker than anyone else on here. 8)
Reading a post on the its forum (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7615.msg91574#msg91574) today, about outstanding RadarBox software bugs, I can't help but think AirNav will have its work cut out to provide ongoing support for this and RadarBox24.
RadarBox bugs haven't been fixed for over 40 months and RadarBox24 is still in beta, 5 months since it was launched. And AirNav is promising paid apps for iOS, Android et al and a Premium website.
With its appalling track record in supporting its flagship product, one on which RadarBox24 totally depends, I don't think I'd be too eager to spend any money on its new products, assuming they get launched.
Brandao should stick to the day job.
Quote from: Anmer on April 12, 2013, 09:11:00 AM
Reading a post on the its forum (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7615.msg91574#msg91574)
today, about outstanding RadarBox software bugs, I can't help but think AirNav will have its work cut out to provide ongoing support for this and RadarBox24.
See this thread about the questioning of long term support for RB24
Topic: Questioning Long-term AirNav Systems support for RadarBox24.com and RB24 Apps
http://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php/topic,1983.0.html
I see this site has the Radarbox24.com banner on it! Took the place of the ShipTrax banner... ummm
http://www.shipspotting.com
That website is owned by AirNav.
According to AirNav it will be launching an iOS app (iPhone/iPad) for RadarBox24 at the of June and an Android version a couple of months later.
I'm sure it means June 2013 so let's wait and see. If it does launch the app then, it will be the first time in 4 years that AirNav's delivered on time.
Rod: we are first developing the iOS apps and after that Android. We hope to have the iOS released in the end of June and Android 1 to 2 months after that. Our intention is to have a RadarBox product available on all platforms (iOS, Android, Windows, Web and Hardware).
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7701.msg92420#msg92420
It's now 5 months since RadarBox24 was launched, powered by "10,000 RadarBoxes streaming realtime data". And now with additional feeds from other receivers, adding 100's every week.
So where are all the aircraft?
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Quote from: Anmer on May 16, 2013, 12:43:48 PM
It's now 5 months since RadarBox24 was launched, powered by "10,000 RadarBoxes streaming realtime data". And now with additional feeds from other receivers, adding 100's every week.
So where are all the aircraft?
I had the UNFORTUNATE opportunity to test the Flightradar24 Receiver vs RadarBox side-by-side -
- both connected to the same antenna via a 1 Input to 2 Outputs Mini-Circuit Power Splitter.
"Fantastic Unique" reception was obtained from my RadarBox. Planes 50 km South-West of Natuna Island dropped off the air.
These planes still remained on Flightradar24 Receiver until 50 Km North-East of Natula Island. Natuna Island is about 50 km long.
150 km difference in range between a RadarBox and the Flightradar24 Receiver is TOO MUCH to bear.
AirNav claimed to have fixed the "Equatorial Bug" in V4.04 the sent to me. The attached Polar plot showed planes dropped from the sky between 70 Degree and 150 Degree - even though they are only 100 km from WSSS.
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Quote from: Anmer on May 16, 2013, 12:43:48 PM
It's now 5 months since RadarBox24 was launched, powered by "10,000 RadarBoxes streaming realtime data". And now with additional feeds from other receivers, adding 100's every week.
So where are all the aircraft?
When AirNav pissed off their customers and BANNED them from their Forum, the NATURAL thing Customers like me did was -
TURN OFF RadarBox - to deprived them from STEALING Data to feed RB24.
I have squeezed the neck of Radarbox24 by using my Radarbox as a Paper-weight.
QuoteAccording to AirNav it will be launching an iOS app (iPhone/iPad) for RadarBox24 at the of June and an Android version a couple of months later.
Strange how they can commit to times about this but can't (or won't) give timescales for RB fixes. >:(
Quote from: Sun Worshipper on May 17, 2013, 10:28:11 AM
QuoteAccording to AirNav it will be launching an iOS app (iPhone/iPad) for RadarBox24 at the of June and an Android version a couple of months later.
Strange how they can commit to times about this but can't (or won't) give timescales for RB fixes. >:(
After all the Bull-shits AirNav spilled on their customers, those who still believe in AirNav's lie need a Brain Transplant badly.
I thought that said a Brian transplant, well, it is very early :-\
I see AirNav has announced on its Facebook that it's started beta testing of the RadarBox24 iOS app and will release the public version in 3 to 4 weeks time. I'll be surprised if it hits that deadline.
"Tks for your feedback. Release will happen after beta testing is finished. We hope in 3-4 weeks. After our iOS application is out we will focus on the Android version."
Nothing posted on the AirNav forum though. Perhaps AirNav doesn't want its customers to find out that it's still working on RadarBox24 and not on the RadarBox windows software?
QuoteNothing posted on the AirNav forum though. Perhaps AirNav doesn't want its customers to find out that it's still working on RadarBox24 and not on the RadarBox windows software?
Surely there are only sycophants left on the Air Nav Forums, most normal customers have either been banned or left in disgust.
Quote from: Sun Worshipper on June 25, 2013, 01:31:25 PM
QuoteNothing posted on the AirNav forum though. Perhaps AirNav doesn't want its customers to find out that it's still working on RadarBox24 and not on the RadarBox windows software?
Surely there are only sycophants left on the Air Nav Forums, most normal customers have either been banned or left in disgust.
I raise my Hands - I got banned and left in disgust !
It's now over 12 months since RadarBox24 was launched but it's still labelled "beta".
Allegedly powered by the "The world's best selling and most advanced Real Time Virtual Radar" and hundreds of other data feeds, I still don't understand why it shows so few aircraft compared to other sites?
Foolishly I believed all the advertising hype and exaggerated claims and bought the app. Perhaps I should have bought the company? ;)
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Never even think of going there to check things out. FR24 is immediate choice.
I see RadarBox24 has started 2014 with massively increased coverage. ;)
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Don't be so harsh, they were probably down for maintenance ;D
..........AGAIN!
Quote from: Anmer on November 30, 2013, 10:42:34 AM
Foolishly I believed all the advertising hype and exaggerated claims and bought the app. Perhaps I should have bought the company? ;)
Please don't waste your GOOD money chasing after bad things.
Use it for a few bottles of good beers.
Maybe RadarBox24 will cease to be a beta soon?
"We are preparing the "RadarBox24 Elite" membership which will remove ads and a few new features.
It will be a paid membership unless you are a feeder (in that case Elite will be free)."
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4tq7kvfjvuon6vg9i066era342&topic=8000.msg100981#msg100981
That last statement will be a real slap in the face to all those saps who gave their data for free on Radarbox and still had to pay a subscription.
Can that scumbag Brandao sink any lower? >:(
I wonder if AirNav will the audacity to still charge a subscription for it's delayed and realtime RadarBox networks?
I bet it does.
Looks like AirNav is getting desperate for data to improve RadarBox24's pathetic coverage:
We've created a new application which integrates in a better way RadarBox24 user accounts and non-RadarBox owners who want to share real-time mode-s data with us.
At this time we need beta testers to check for any possible bugs/problems.
Basically you don't need to have a RadarBox unit but another mode-s receiver (SBS, Mode-s Beast, Dongle).
To download the application please go to:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/RB24/rb24clientsetup.html
Report any problems to support@airnavsystems.com
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4tq7kvfjvuon6vg9i066era342&topic=8007.msg101208#msg101208
And it gets more desperate too:
Hi
We are looking for users of the planeplotter software that would be able to beta a new feature on our website / RadarBox network / RadarBox24.
If you are an active planeplotter user please send us an email to support@airnavsystems.com
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4tq7kvfjvuon6vg9i066era342&topic=8008.msg101212#msg101212
And this is why:
http://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php/topic,3510.msg16283.html#msg16283
And this from the same company that claimed other receivers produced unreliable data and RadarBox was the world's best selling receiver.
I wonder what AirNav wants from PlanePlotter? MLAT maybe?