RadarBox24.com Beta Launched

[Anmer]

This RadarBox24.com project raises some important questions for the RadarBox customer base:

1. Why should we pay for the delayed or live network when the data is available for free on RadarBox24.com?

2. If the beta turns into a subscription based website, should we be paid by AirNav for our data?  Don't forget every RadarBox user has to remember to turn off data sharing everytime the software is started.

3. What would happen if the majority of RadarBox customers turned off data sharing?

4. With RadarBox sales at a standstill, how is AirNav going to compete with Planefinder.net and Flightradar24.com who get feeds from different makes of receiver and not just RadarBox?

Be interesting to see how this pans out.

[GregHudson]

On the plus side, I mst say I'm impressed by the cockpit view... Much better than FR24.
In particular being able to 'see' other aircraft, and having the airports highlighted in yellow. A very good idea.

FR24, you'll have to do some more work !   ;-)

Regards, Greg.

[Bethsalem]

Unfortunately, "Pilot View" has a bug (surprise, surprise).

I was using Pilot View to watch a Ryanair flight land at Girona, but at 800ft coverage was lost. However Pilot View merrily had the aircraft crash into the terrain just short of the runway. 

[Anmer]

"- Direct competition: there several other sites competing directly with RB24. We intend to bring a more professional approach to this area. RB24 is the only web based flight tracker developed by professional pilots;"

And so was ShipTrax 

What a total load of tosh.  I'd prefer Brandao stuck to the day job.  Or maybe he should start writing customer service call logging systems?

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7295.msg86408#msg86408

[Anmer]

"Below we share photos of RadarBox brand new reception station located in Faial Island, Azores, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. We recorded flights almost 400 NM away from the station location and because of it we've significantly improved our coverage of the Central Atlantic (flights from Southern Europe to the US and from all Europe to the Caribbean)."

Just to compare RadarBox24.com coverage of the Azores with the two main competitors, which weren't developed by professional pilots.   

But how come the other two have more aircraft over the Azores?  Ignore the green ones on RadarBox24.com, they come from the FAA ASDI feed which we can't turn off.

It also illustrates that the other two products have significantly more aircraft than AirNav (I turned off the ASDI feeds for these).

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7298.msg86436#msg86436

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[Sun Worshipper]

Whoop de doo, just what I want to see, aircraft buzzing the Azores.

C'mon you lying toad Brandao, fix the RB bugs you promised way back instead of pushing your latest folly.

[Anmer]

I see there's a (hardly) used ShipTrax receiver being sold by ML&S for just £199.95:

http://www.hamradio.co.uk/used-equipment/airnav/airnav-shiptrax-used-pd-4984.php

Tomorrow will be three years since the last RadarBox software update.  No bug fixes let alone new features for three years.  In case anyone's forgotten, AirNav used to brag that "work never stops".

First it was ShipTrax and now RadarBox24.com, both seen by Brandao as a new, rich revenue seam.  ShipTrax was sinking before it was launched and I suspect RadarBox24.com has missed the boat too.  No puns intended.

[Sun Worshipper]

http://www.radarspotters.eu/forum/index.php/topic,6252.225.html

There's two ways of viewing this sorry stae for Brian and Lou.  You either feel sorry for them or you think, you've been around long enough to know what Air Nav are like, what ever possessed you?

Whichever way you cut it, Brandao has had their trousers down!

[Brian]

Looks like this thread was deleted over at Airliners.net forum.

the title was...

New RadarBox24 Online Flight Tracker
1 day ago – It that the the company that develops the RadarBox ADS-B receiver, has released in beta mode a new web based flight tracker. It has a very ...
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/5622697/

[Brian]

[RadarBox24 update]

Now available to only show the ADS-B data on RadarBox24.com / RB24.com

Under the 'options'>'Filter' tab.

[] ADS-B Aircraft Only

[Brian]

RadarBox24.com / RB24.com FlightID Tip:

Just add any 'FlightID' on the end of the URL, and it will find it on the map.

https://www.radarbox24.com/BAW828
https://www.radarbox24.com/N575WB
https://www.radarbox24.com/UAL115

...etc

[Anmer]

I see the message is beginning to sink in:

"I am not happy at all with this radarbox24.com you pay the price for the box and then this gets released for free wow, are we gonna be getting free subscriptions for fr24 network or something along them lines because this is bang out of order."

Not only that, it's the price we paid for the box that's underpinning the whole thing.  Stop AirNav stealing our data by turning off the default data sharing and see what happens!

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86581#msg86581

[Smudger98]

Just checking my junk mail and found one from Airnav.. seems the right to Keep it..!!   

Log in to leave feed back eh.. i cant i`m banned..!!

RadarBox24.com has been released in beta mode (meaning we are still improving it).
It's the first online flight tracker developed by aviation professionals and fully using data from our ever growing worldwide RadarBox ADS-B network (in addition to FAA Radar and Oceanic Data).

Visit the new system at:
www.radarbox24.com

At this time we are asking our forum members to send their feedback regarding the new system, it's features and how it performs on their computers and tablets.

Please share your opinion at the newly created RadarBox24 facebook and twitter accounts:
http://www.facebook.com/radarbox24
http://www.twitter.com/radarbox24

Or at RadarBox24 forum:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?board=19.0

RadarBox24 Feature list:
- Fully featured web based flight tracker
- Real-time departure/arrival events
- Professional aviation layers including airspace boundaries, NAT tracks and navigation aids
- Full search functionality: search for a flight, city or airport
- Position estimates over remote oceanic areas
- Possibility of saving your favorite locations
- Continuous network growth thanks to new RadarBox receivers being daily all over the world
- Aircraft photos and data source information
- Detailed data source information

Waiting for your feedback.

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You can view the full announcement by following this link:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7317.0

Regards,
The AirNav Systems Forum Team.

[Anmer]

They're beginning to wake up.  But wait until the formal product launch and the fees AirNav is going to charge for our data.

"I'm with djnixy on this. This is a new low for those of us who purchased Radarbox and paid our subscription year over year. Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted to see new apps coming along to get more people interested in the subject, but wow, never have I felt so TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF as a loyal customer! Why would I bother uploading data from my RadarBox anymore???  So I pay RadarBox to give  them data so that they can provide it to others so that they can have the FREE SERVICE that I'm paying for? You gotta be kidding me? This is a wind up! Am I on candid camera or something? Michael O'Leary in RyanAir can learn from this one!!!! I can't see myself renewing a subscription after this."

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86722#msg86722

[Anmer]

Looks like AirNav's "little helper" is letting the cat out of the bag 

"To receive the RB network via the box users require to have a box and to subscribe.  Why then should none box users and non-subscribers get the data freely?

Once we get beyond the Beta stage, I feel that instead of being available to just anyone it should be available solely to subscribers and those who upload the data from their RB."

I can't wait for the "official" announcement.  Should stir things up a bit. 

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7324.msg86777#msg86777