After a lot of thinking and searching I had the opportunity to get a new Raspberry-pi B+ and all the equipment as listed by FR24 to get a receiver feeding their site, and presumably keep my Business account. All items were received and I meticulously went through their steps and got to the point were everything was connected up and powered up I was also getting the correct coloured lights on both the ethernet and receiver lights. Having got up to this stage ( item 5 as listed under "setting up your P124") I then followed the link and got the following
Raspberry Pi-based) receivers online in the same network as your web browser.
Click "Activate" on the receiver you want to connect to your Flightradar24 account.
If your receiver is not in the list above please follow the instructions [here]
As there was nothing to activate I went to the next step, pressing the "follow the instructions [here]"
This is were I was out of my depth because it was asking me to "SSH into your Raspberry Pi and execute this command
sudo bash -c "$(wget -O - https://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/install_fr24_rpi.sh (https://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/install_fr24_rpi.sh)
None of the equipment obtained in the instructions gives anything to use to alter anything on the raspberry pi, and led me to believe that I would not need to tamper with the pi. As the pi came with an HDMI cable I connected it to the pi and could see the Flight-Radar 24 program but I have no way of adding or altering it at all.
What can I do now?
If I was to get a small touch screen for the pi would it allow me to do what they ask or is that not possible?
Thanks for any helpful suggestions you may have, I have also asked FR24 how I do what they want using the list they say is ALL I NEEDED !
Still no response from Flight Radar 24 to help me through my dilemma on how to add the information to the pi, but what they have done is overnight downgrade my current access from Business to basic.
I have been trying to read up on how I can update the files on the pi but it is all above my level. What I do belive is that there is someway I should be able to read the micro-SD on my (windows) PC and use another program to add the extra info. Anyone tried this or who can help me with what I need to complete the task.
Thanks in advance
Mike
Hi Mike
I was hoping someone would offer you some advice. Unfortunatelrly I don't feed FR24 using an RPi.
If I get a chance (but I'm very busy doling some major DIY at the moment), I'll try and replicate what you're trying to achieve,
But surely we have some members feeding FR24 using an RPi?
Hi Mike(s)
I feed FR24 from my Pi and also feed FA.
If the issue Roadrunner is experiencing is with SSH, then I'll try and help. You first need to load an SSH program - PuTTY is a very popular one (there are others)
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html
Pick either 32 bit or 64 bit at the top of that page. Install as per any other windows program.
Open the program and you will see a screen like the one attached. Enter the IP address of the Pi in the box labelled 'Host Name (or IP address)' top right in the image. Click open. You should then see a command type screen asking you to "login as". Unless you have changed the Pi's defaults this will be login as 'pi' no quotes and the password is 'raspberry'. After you have got passed that stage you should see a screen like the second one attached.
It's at this point you need to type the command line you show:
sudo bash -c "$(wget -O - https://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/install_fr24_rpi.sh
One tip here you can copy the line of code from a windows screen then in the Pi's SSH window just right click the mouse and that line of code is pasted in. Hit enter and that should then load the FR24 image onto your pi.
You should be able to go and configure it as per the FR24 instructions. That's how I got mine running and that is alongside the FA Piaware stuff.
I hope this gets you going.
Tim
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Brilliant, thanks Tim.
Thanks Mike & Tim.
Tim I have a 64bit PC so downloaded the program and get the initial screen and entered the IP of the pi (went into my hub) and hit the "open" button. I then got the command type screen, without any intermediary screen asking for login as or password. May I say at this point that I got a brand new pi 3+ nothing else has been loaded as I followed FR24 installation for just their program. To continue, when I tried to type into the box my mouse would not type into it albeit I could see the curser image over the blank screen.
CORRECTION on closer look I find that my mouse will not work on the pop up SSH screen (black) that comes after hitting open. I use a wifi one do I need to use a wired one to use this?
Have to go out for an hour or so as wife wants to shop.
Any other ideas please
Regards mike
Hi Mike,
OK, this could get a little complicated but let's see. Have you followed the instructions here:
https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/11137-How-to-Feed-Data-to-Multiple-Sites-A-Brief-Guide
Option A
And here: https://www.flightradar24.com/build-your-own
It does make some assumptions that you know how to format the SD card and use Win32DiskImager. Rather than post a load of stuff that you may alrerady know, perhaps you can come back and advise how far you have got with the above (if anywhere) ;)
Can't see why a wireless mouse should make any difference tbh.
Tim
I can confirm that I downloaded Win32diskmanager, loaded the 4GB miniSD I got in the bundle of stuff. I followed the process step by step and have the Pi connected to ethernet to my Virgin Hub 3 and aerial connected to Jet vison dongle which is also plugged into the Pi and so is the power. Ethernet lights and display lights work as expected. I log into FR24 under my current email address and password, then I go to the final steps of the set up that is when I get no connections listed so have to go to the page that gets into this SSH stuff. I did for a short while disconnect my PC from my monitor and connected the pi to the HDMA connection and got the Flightradar 24 logo and streams of data go onto the screen. I can confirm that my virgin hub shows the raspberry pi as connected 192.168.0.5 and as I sit here the pi is flashing a green on the front. I loaded the Putty 64bit version and get the screen up I enter the address 192.168.0.5 and get the black command screen come up directly. However, neither my keyboard not mouse affect an ything on that screen.
Just to confirm as this raspberry-pi business is all new to me I only wanted to get the device running with FR24 so nothing else is connected or expected of the pi.
Further I can add that FR24 got back to me this morning and have given me back my business account and suggested that I reflash the image, which I have done but still to no different affect.
I'm sorry Mike, I can't understand why your mouse does not work in the PuTTY window - it should just behave like any other window on your screen.
It sounds as though you have things set-up correctly and you just need that final stage.
I can't offer you anymore suggestions I'm afraid.
Tim
Tim,
Thanks for your help. I had been reading about the PuTTY program but had not downloaded it until your info. I have checked that the pi on ethernet is getting an address, which it is, my PC windows 10, 64-bit has never had keyboard problems. I was just talking to a guy I know who has a pi touch screen keyboard and he hopes to pop round latter and see if we can get in that way.
Thanks again Mike
Tim Mike,
I spoke to another friend of mine although not into aviation is an avid pi user and suggested I get mine back onto screen using the HDMI cable even if I cant interact with it look for clues on there. I did that and found that my Pi ip was 192.168.0.57 not just .5 as I had read from my router. When I tried that it allowed me to see the login screen on the pi and I was asked to change its password. I did all that and finally got into the system. I then typed the line
[font=]sudo bash -c "$(wget -O - [/font][font=]https://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/install_fr24_rpi.sh[/font][font=])"[/font]However, although it accepted it and was showing as loading etc, when I went back into fr24 the devise still does not appear on my list.
Hi Mike - sorry been strimming!
I see you have followed the FR24 instructions and found your feed was not listed on this page
https://www.flightradar24.com/activate-raspberry-pi
My feed isn't listed either! However, I know I am feeding as I can check on the FR24 web page under my account.
Clicking on the link shows you the code that you posted earlier
sudo bash -c "$(wget -O - https://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/install_fr24_rpi.sh)"
That same code is also shown here:
https://www.flightradar24.com/share-your-data
Further down the page is an FAQ and it offers this as a way to check your settings
If you want to access it from a different computer on the same network, let's suppose FR24 data sharing application is running on a Raspberry Pi and you want to check settings from your PC/Mac then http://IP-of-RPI:8754.
What happens if you try that, do you get any options to enter email addresses and antenna location etc?
Struggling a bit now.
Tim
Hi Guys,
Yesterday was a VERY trying dat with trying to set up my FR24 feed on a pi. However, I have to report that after 2-3 hours of trial and failure I finally got the pi to understand the line of entry to let me set up my pi.... I got to the pages that allow me to insert my local preferences email address etc and it came back with my key and sharing code. (under window set up years ago I had No.6 for my local airport now I am 185). I had to go out then so I did not actually get to find out if it was loading data against my id.
Looking through this morning and only been active for about 30 minutes so don't know how long it will be before I feature in the lists.
Just looking through the data I got on completion of the set-up and notice the near last line in the feedback states
To start sending data now please execute : Sudo systemctl start fr24feed
I did not do that last night so using PuTTY did it this morning but after entering the line it gave no indication og activation. Is that normal
also will I have to do that after every restart of the pi?
I also not that I input my altitude the wrong way round putting in 530 rather than 350 feet asl. Is it easy to change it to the correct figure.
I would like to thank all who tried to help me yesterday and to say there were times I was going to bite the bullet and give up on it.
Regards Mike
Hi Mike,
There's a good write up here:
https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/8908-New-Flightradar24-feeding-software-for-Raspberry-Pie?p=66479#post66479
It may help you trouble shoot. There is a line of code that should allow you to go through the sign-up process again. See the section that starts-
After installation, please run the sign-up wizard even if you already have a sharing key:
$ fr24feed --signup
Then restart the feed:
$ sudo systemctl restart fr24feed
You can monitor the app status by:
$ fr24feed-status
As far as I am aware the FR24 feed starts automatically at boot up of the Pi. Mine does and I didn't add any extra code or anything else. The code immediately above should tell you if you are feeding or not.
Hope of some use.
Tim
Thanks Tim,
I got all the messages about being connected etc last afternoon at about 15:30, I also then got a message later the same evening that I had stopped feeding. That was because I went out and as I was not completely sure what my status was I turned my system off. Will try these extra things and see how it goes.
Thanks
Thanks for keeping at it Mike and sharing your experiences.
I know the teams at both FlightAware and FR24. Some really great people with some smart techynology. But different styles of working.
FlightAware pioneered public flight tracking back on 2005 but it was FR24 in 2009 that launched ADS-B data sharing as we know it today.
So what am I getting at?
FlightAware has now overtaken FR24 in the number of data sharers. How? By launching PiAware with an "out-of-the-box" option to download a complete SD card image that doesn't require subscribers to "open the hood" to "start the engine".
Both FlightAware and FR24 have abandoned the Windows community. But at least FlightAware makes it much easier to setup and maintain an RPi/SDR feed which also offers local tracking with Skyview.
FR24 would do itself some good to follow suit.
Just my thoughts.
Mike,
Thanks for the comment re Flightaware. I used to feed them as well but gave up with the ban on windows feeds. Despite the frustrations I have "enjoyed" getting to grips with my raspberry pi. That device did not cost me as my brother in law is an avid anti windows man an does loads of self programming and has lost track of how many pi's he has. He set me in the right direction on a couple of points but has never used them in the aircraft tracking area.
They say you are never too old to learn and as I am still having a couple of problems with the feed. I have set MLAT to no and I get a failed line in the response to fr24feed-status [picture attached] I would like to turn MLAT on but was not sure what the response to the question re basestation feeding should be as mine is fed via Windows 10.
Anyway it also showed at that time 56 aircraft being tracked so I am reasonably happy, hope that I can improve that over the coming weeks.
I am so glad for this forum and all the help I have received since I retired and joined the SBS users party back in 2006. Cant believe that is now 13 years ago and things have moved significantly on .
Regards Mike
Soory to be posting so much on this subject but thought this could be of interest to others. Earlier Tim in one of his replies mention typing http://192.168.0.245:8754 (http://192.168.0.245:8754) into the command line with substituting your own pi IP address in place of the one shown above. However, I coul not get it to work then but tonight I saw a slightly modified line of entry http://192.168.245:8754/settings.html (http://192.168.245:8754/settings.html), which resulted in me seeing my entries for the basic questions, plus you have the option of changing information on that one simple screen. I have covered my key in this picture but it does beg one or two questions.
As I do have my set-up working (apparently) at the moment I don't want to mess around for a while but wonder if anyone can advise me re the three questions which appear related to MLAT
Raw data (30002/30334) at present answered no, Will this need to be yes if I want MLAT?
SBS Feed (10001) at present answered no, Do I need to change this as my SBS3 feeds via windows.
Decoded data (30003) at present answered no. Does this need to be Yes if I want MLAT?
MLAT at present no.
If I change that to yes will it reveal the Latitude/Longitude and Aerial height questions ?
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Hi Mike,
My version of your image is attached. Please bear in in my Pi is essentially a PiAware set-up with the FR24 feed "bolted on" so some of the settings will be different. You can see the options I have and all of those related to SBS are showing 'No'. FR24 don't want feeds via windows anymore so you can leave those as you have them.
I still think you might need to go through the setup process as I described earlier, to get back to the antenna location / height options., but that is a bit of a guess on my part. Perhaps someone else knows how to get to that configuration page without re-running the signup.
$ fr24feed --signup
I hope you get it sorted out.
Tim
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Thanks Tim,
You are right, I am unable to carry out changes from the settings screen. I did check that according to that I am feeding aircraft data (4o0at the time) although I have yet to see my set-up in FR24's data provders list.
I wanted to change just the MLAT setting from no to Yes so went into the fr24feed --signup and completed all the data again, inserting my known feeding key. It ended by saying I had been accepted and gave me a new T-EGGW code (totally unexpectedly) then the final remarks was update failed. Checked my feed status again and shows I am still feeding but MLAT status not changed but I am still using the feeding Key and ID I am signed in for. Think next stage is just to find out why I am unable to adjust the information.
Thanks for all your help, nearly there and I'm sure it wont be long before Im completely set up as I want.
Regards Mike
Tim, Mike
Just to let you know, following further encouragement and advice I retraced my steps and yet again tried the use of fr24feed --signup it actually allowed me to save the settings so now I have a fully functional fr24 feed via raspberry pi and jetvision dongle with MLAT capability.
Thank you for your help and encouragement over the last few days.
Regards Mike
Excellent Mike, glad you persevered and got there in the end.
Happy days!
Tim
Hi Guys,
My set-up has been running continuously now for over a week and I am uploading data all the time. However, this morning it is showing Tracked 0 uploaded 59.
Everything seems to be OK so is this a problem? or what ?
Regards Mike
Quote from: Roadrunner on July 27, 2019, 10:01:05 AM
However, this morning it is showing Tracked 0 uploaded 59.
Where are you seeing this?
What's your feeder Status shown on the FR24 website under "My Data Sharing"?
I have the line of entry 192.168.0.57:8754 in my web favourites and this shows Tracking : 0, Uploading : 46
From within the FR24 program, tracking page it still shows me as providing data and I am gradually going up the list of data suppliers.
Regards Mike