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Title: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 21, 2020, 05:55:15 PM
As the topic is saying, are there any Dutch members here? Also German members (i speak both languages)
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: mezoo on April 21, 2020, 09:28:36 PM
I am german and understand a little(!) Dutch  ::)

My companies head office was in Roermond for a while, but I am based near EDLW.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 21, 2020, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: mezoo on April 21, 2020, 09:28:36 PM
I am german and understand a little(!) Dutch  ::)

My companies head office was in Roermond for a while, but I am based near EDLW.

Hi there i worked a time at EDLV, and also on time at EDSB and EDDN, so i can speak dutch.

I was wondering, do you know any German / Dutch website where i can download outlines?
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Pipo on April 21, 2020, 09:57:11 PM
I was wondering, do you know any German / Dutch website where i can download outlines?

If you need any, please let me know.  I may have them for you.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Hobbyd on April 22, 2020, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: Pipo on April 21, 2020, 05:55:15 PM
As the topic is saying, are there any Dutch members here? Also German members (i speak both languages)

Yep, but I am not very active on this group.
I follow these (English) aircraft related groups on a daily basis:
https://groups.io/g/planeplotter   The first one contains outline files.
https://acars-vdl2.groups.io/g/main
https://acars-vdl2.groups.io/g/HFDL

Not sure how well an automatic (google) translation would work on these sites.

Gegroet,
Dick (Apeldoorn)

Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Pipo on April 21, 2020, 09:57:11 PM
I was wondering, do you know any German / Dutch website where i can download outlines?

If you need any, please let me know.  I may have them for you.

I'm looking for these outlines:

NL_MIL_AARA.out
NL_MIL_AIAA.out
NL_MIL_ARA.out
NL_MIL_ATE.out
NL_MIL_E3AOA.out
NL_MIL_MATZ.out
NL_MIL_MTA.out
NL_MIL_TACAN.out

And the dutch Hold Area (VATSIM)
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:10:16 PM
Sorry, I only have airport outlines.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:10:16 PM
Sorry, I only have airport outlines.

Thanks for the help, you maybe know websites where to download outlines? Bones website only has UK/IE outlines
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
The only place I knew was the old Jetvision site but that went offline many years ago.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
The only place I knew was the old Jetvision site but that went offline many years ago.

I notice a lot of SBS, Basestation websites are gone. to bad....
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:48:22 PM
Quote from: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:29:20 PM
I notice a lot of SBS, Basestation websites are gone. to bad....

Yes.  Too much "competition" from the tracking services like FR24, FlightAware, PlaneFinder etc.  All of which owe their existence to our community sharing its data from SBS and other receivers!
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:48:22 PM
Quote from: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:29:20 PM
I notice a lot of SBS, Basestation websites are gone. to bad....

Yes.  Too much "competition" from the tracking services like FR24, FlightAware, PlaneFinder etc.  All of which owe their existence to our community sharing its data from SBS and other receivers!

To bad also to see that the kinetic forum is closed, also a lot of other forums that users of basestation not working any more.

Do you maybe have this program: SBS-Resources High-Res airfield outlines?
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:53:50 PM
Do you maybe have this program: SBS-Resources High-Res airfield outlines?

That doesn't work anymore.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 22, 2020, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Pipo on April 22, 2020, 12:53:50 PM
Do you maybe have this program: SBS-Resources High-Res airfield outlines?

That doesn't work anymore.

I know with this program it was installing a folder with outlines in it, so maybe i was able to look if i can find there my outlines
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Faramir on April 23, 2020, 05:21:20 AM
Yep, I'm also Dutch, but on the forum let's stick to English :)
Someone mentioned this (https://acme.com/jef/outlines/) website for making your own outlines. I made some MUAC sectors and however labourious it's worth it. Basically it allows you draw lines on a map and convert that to coorinates. If you share the definitions (MilAIP?) of these areas it would be possible to create them.




Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 23, 2020, 08:53:35 AM
Making Outlines isn't difficult.  But it can be time consuming.

This Guide may help:

https://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item12
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Faramir on April 23, 2020, 09:43:43 AM
Indeed a great document! As you say it's not to difficult. Tracing the south country border for some MUAC sector just took me about 7 hours :-)
Hoping got get the SBS-1 running again, I experience withdrawl symptoms :) While the Air!Squitter is a great receiver I miss the database.
It all began with the SBS-1 and I value not only the current situation but the history of an airframe in my database as well.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: mezoo on April 24, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
In danger of going off-topic.

If you have a Air!Squitter then it should be possible to connect it to Virtual Radar Server (just like the RadarCape)
VRS can be set up to log the aircraft to a Basestation SQB.

This the setup I use for my Radarcape.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 25, 2020, 07:56:53 AM
Quote from: mezoo on April 24, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
If you have a Air!Squitter then it should be possible to connect it to Virtual Radar Server (just like the RadarCape)
VRS can be set up to log the aircraft to a Basestation SQB.

It appears the Air!Squitter doesn't make the received data available without an expensive Commercial Licence:

https://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php/topic,11197.msg46204.html#msg46204
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: mezoo on April 25, 2020, 12:00:45 PM
I havn't been following the Air!Squitter.
As the Squitter uses the same FGPA hardware as the Radarcape I assumed it had the same interface.

In the shop it says that the Air!Squitter includes "Feeders for FlightRadar24, FlightAware, Opensky Network, Planeplotter and ADSB Exchange"
So couldn't the Planeplotter interface be used for feeding to a Basestation sqb ?

However further down it says port 30003 is disabled - but doesnt PP and most other feeder (FR24, OpenSky, FlightAware) use this port ?
Probably would need to do a port scan to see which ports are open
(e.g. like the AVR port 30334 on the FR24 receiver which can also be connected to VRS)

A really disappointing development.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Anmer on April 25, 2020, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: mezoo on April 25, 2020, 12:00:45 PM
In the shop it says that the Air!Squitter includes "Feeders for FlightRadar24, FlightAware, Opensky Network, Planeplotter and ADSB Exchange"
So couldn't the Planeplotter interface be used for feeding to a Basestation sqb ?

I'm assuming these data feeds are integrated with the Air!Squitter operating system and don't take data from an "open" port.

If this device wasn't so expensive, I'd buy one and have a play.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Radio2.0 on September 16, 2020, 10:22:52 PM
Well I am not Dutch / German but I understand both.
I hope some people are still sharing with my.  :-*
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on September 17, 2020, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: Radio2.0 on September 16, 2020, 10:22:52 PM
Well I am not Dutch / German but I understand both.
I hope some people are still sharing with my.  :-*

Welkom, Willkommen, I have worked in Germany on 3 airports: EDLV (Weeze), EDSB (Baden-Airpark) and EDDN (Nürnberg). So im a dutch that speaks German. A good dutch friend of me is working on Vienna Airport.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Radio2.0 on September 17, 2020, 11:57:32 AM
 ;D Maybe the reshare my feed. I cover a good portion of the VIE. Sadly I am many KM away but I use a damn expencive Yagi Antenna + very expencive filter + good SDR Dongle to receive the max as possible.
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Pipo on September 17, 2020, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Radio2.0 on September 17, 2020, 11:57:32 AM
;D Maybe the reshare my feed. I cover a good portion of the VIE. Sadly I am many KM away but I use a damn expencive Yagi Antenna + very expencive filter + good SDR Dongle to receive the max as possible.

Im just started to use VirtualRadar Server software on my pc, at this moment im stil using the OEM antenna of sbs-1e, hope to fit my antenna on the roof this week/weekend. Im living in Zeeland near by airport Antwerp, Brussels, Ostend. And hope to get +/- 400-500km covering, there is not any high building near by and all farm land around me. Im going to use a 60cm adsb antenne with amplifier.

So maybe when you use VirtualRadar Server software we can share covering our info
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: T7 on October 23, 2020, 12:53:08 PM
Hey,

I am Dutch, living about 5km from AMS airport and using a SBS-3 with DPD-1090 aerial. Expensive aerial but very good!
With 5 (kinetic sbs-)users we have our own built 'datasharing' server running, just to have more covering. 3 other users live around the airport, 1 is living in Apeldoorn.
No experience yet with VRS, maybe something for the near future..
Title: Re: Any Dutch / German members here?
Post by: Radio2.0 on October 23, 2020, 02:29:45 PM
 ;) Do you want share with me?
Sorry currently I planing my Home Network new also will change the Router so I dont want add someone to my Setup.