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Mode-S Receivers => Kinetic's SBS-3 => Topic started by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 08:22:02 AM

Title: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 08:22:02 AM
Hi,
Long time, hope everything is well.
I am trying to make it working connected to my ethernet network.
It doesn't want to work ... No light :)
I have tried three different cables from cat5 to cat6.
Move from USB to Etehrnet .... Ethernet to USB and vice versa ....
Fresh install ....

[DataInterface]
LStat=48882458
SocketIntfIPAddress=192.168.206.250
SocketIntfPort=10001

Doesn't show on my network.
Ideas ?
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 08:32:50 AM
Welcome back  ;)

I assume you're using BaseStation with an SBS-3?

Has it ever worked using Ethernet?

Have you configured BaseStation to connect to the SBS-3 in Settings?  What IP address and port number are set?

Do you know your local IP address range?
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 08:38:16 AM
Yes I am running my BS with my SBS3.
Yes it was working over ethernet.
Yes I know my local IP range, I am the admin of my network ;)
I have connected the box to my network in the right VLAN. I am supposing that there is no DHCP client in the box ??
See the first post for the IP number.
And it doesn't create the sqlite3 DB ....
Thx
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 08:47:07 AM
Thanks.

Worse case scenario the SBS-3's Ethernet has failed.

Have you checked SBS-3 works OK using USB?

I assume you've tried pinging the SBS-3?

I have a utility to reset the Lantronix back to the default IP and port if you want to try it?  You would then need to set the IP address and port to whatever you want to use.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 08:50:18 AM
yes please
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 08:50:24 AM
Silly mention.  Is BaseStation Data Source set to "Use Network"?
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 08:57:34 AM
:'(  of course ....

But everytime I am moving in both way to USB or Ethernet, I have a popup with a BS error ... And it doesn't work even if using USB ... How to you choose the right COM port ?
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 09:00:22 AM
I've emailed you a link to Lantronix.  But if SBS-3 doesn't work using USB, does it have a suitable power supply
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 09:08:57 AM
Kinetic Avionics Limited.
Lantronix Xport setup utility V1.1

Binding to UDP
Ready.

Sending Version Query UDP Datagram to Broadcast Port: 30718
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  4
Sending Config Page 0 UDP Datagram to Broadcast Port: 30718
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  4
Sending Config Page 3 UDP Datagram to Broadcast Port: 30718
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  4
Sending Config Page 7 UDP Datagram to Broadcast Port: 30718
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  4
Sending Config Record 7 - Broadcasting KAL Config to all units
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  130
Sending Config Record 3 - Broadcasting KAL Config to all units
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  130
Sending Config Record 0 - Broadcasting KAL Config to all units
Confirmed : Sent datagram : size  124
Sending Reset to Broadcast Port: 30718
Sending Reset to Broadcast Port: 30718
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 09:40:45 AM
I am trying to do it in a second laptop with fresh install.
I need your auth to dl it.

Thx
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 09:52:11 AM
Try now.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 10:01:06 AM
ok done, no need :)  I have exactly the same thing that my main pc (running Lantronix) ...

But when running on my laptop (usb) , I have now an active session. And I know see the scope ... But I am using for this test my old sqlite3 ... How to generate a fresh one ? 
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: Urania on September 25, 2025, 10:01:06 AMBut I am using for this test my old sqlite3 ... How to generate a fresh one ?

Do you need a "fresh" sqlite3?
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 11:24:56 AM
yep
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 11:44:53 AM
Does the SBS3 now work using Ethernet?

As for SQLite3, Google it and go from there.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 25, 2025, 12:25:19 PM
I am at the moment focusing on making it working on USB.

On my sbs3 box when connecting by USB to my PC:

Power: Red
USB OK: Orange
Signal 1.2.3 ON blue
Session Active: ON green

In the Kinetic folder in my PC:

UserData, BaseStation.exe, BaseStation, BaseStation.sqb, BaseStationReporter (from my old config), BaseStationReporter, sqlite.dll (from my old config)

Start running BS: A windows appear: BS Startup Configuration:

next - Enter Lat/Long - next - USB - next - choosing SBS3 - next - Test in progress - Test Failed

Questions:

How does the sqlite3 DB is generated ?

If no sqlite3.dll in the same folder than BS, there is no Active Session. If I add the sqlite3 from my previous config, I do have an active Session and the BS startup configuration windows.
What to do next ?

Thx
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 25, 2025, 01:43:05 PM
OK, let's focus on getting the SBS-3 running using USB.

Do you have a file named ftd2xx.dll in your BaseStation folder?

The sqlite3 file is needed for the Reporter database, not to run BaseStation.

The setup test is failing because BaseStation can't connect to the SBS-3.  Typically because the USB drivers are absent.

In the BaseStation folder you should also have a file CDM20814_Setup.exe.  In Windows Explorer, double click this file to load the drivers.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 26, 2025, 06:12:32 AM
Yes I do have the ftd2xx in the folder, if not BS will not even start.
If I did understood well, if we do have the Session Active (green light) it means that BS is connected to the box, this is the case.
I have installed the USB drivers, but I do not find it in the list when running: devmgmt.msc ...

In the same time, I have used, from my previous config, the file SBS1 Link tester:

SBS-1 Link Tester started

Note:- You cannot test the link while BaseStation is running. If BaseStation is running then please shut it down before running a test.

Starting test, attempting to open USB link...
Opening USB link: BaudRate = 921600; USBTypeAutoDetectOverrideDesc = ""; USBTypeAutoDetectOverrideComPort = 0
Getting port to use...
Determining if Kinetic SBS-3 Beavis 3A A is correct SBS-1 device
Determining if Kinetic SBS-3 Beavis 3A B is correct SBS-1 device
Error: No matching port names found!
Opening device Kinetic SBS-3 Beavis 3A A
VID: 0403; PID: 6010
Link successfully opened
Closing link
Test completed successfully!

Seems to be communicating ?



Still not working.

ps: link for a virgin DB : https://www.kinetic.co.uk/resourcesdownloads.php#Virgin BS database (https://www.kinetic.co.uk/resourcesdownloads.php)
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 26, 2025, 07:17:04 AM
Ok, I went outside with my laptop, it seems now to work on USB.
Something I have difficulties to understand, outside the signal was poor (Signal 1) but working when in my office the signal was at 3 or 4 .... I come back to you later today.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 26, 2025, 07:48:38 AM
Quote from: Urania on September 26, 2025, 06:12:32 AMIf I did understood well, if we do have the Session Active (green light) it means that BS is connected to the box, this is the case.

See attached image of part of Page 9 of the BaseStation Reference Manual.

Quote from: Urania on September 26, 2025, 06:12:32 AMps: link for a virgin DB : https://www.kinetic.co.uk/resourcesdownloads.php#Virgin BS database (https://www.kinetic.co.uk/resourcesdownloads.php)

Sorry, I don't understand this?

If you delete the existing basestation.sqb file, restarting BaseStation will automatically create an empty sqb file.

Quote from: Urania on September 26, 2025, 06:12:32 AMSomething I have difficulties to understand, outside the signal was poor (Signal 1) but working when in my office the signal was at 3 or 4

How long is the USB cable connecting the laptop to the SBS-3 when you go outside?
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 26, 2025, 08:48:11 AM
The USB cable connected to the laptop is less than a meter.
I have tried with the Ethernet, not working.
No ping and I do not see the IP number chosen in my network.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 26, 2025, 09:05:06 AM
Either the SBS-3 Ethernet has failed or there's an incompatibilty with your local network, either IP address and/or port number.
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 28, 2025, 05:48:27 AM
Don't ask me why but it is now working over ethernet ....
Thx a lot for your help .... It could have been more simple to add a dhcp client in the box ....

++
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Anmer on September 28, 2025, 07:54:57 AM
Good to hear it's working now.  Thanks for the update.

It's a pity we don't know why it now works  ;)
Title: Re: Old SBS3 config / Ethernet ??
Post by: Urania on September 29, 2025, 05:20:53 AM
Not sure, but I think it is a mask pb. I gave an IP /24 instead of /26