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Title: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Brian on April 01, 2013, 04:38:10 AM
Posted on March 31, 2013 on Easter Day.
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RadarBox24.com

We are happy to announce that today RadarBox24 stopped sending real-time flight data to the Flightradar24 online tracker.

This means that starting today flights shown on RadarBox24 network are unique to RadarBox24 and will not be shared with other sites. What you see on RadarBox24 is unique to RadarBox24.

https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/309646279164181
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Interesting comments to read on the facebook link.
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Brian on April 01, 2013, 04:39:13 AM
False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?

Never heard RB24 ever sharing data to FR24.
Prove me wrong and show me any statements(forum thread or facebook post) from AirNav
Systems saying they were sharing data to FR24.
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 01, 2013, 08:06:31 AM
Quote from: Brian on April 01, 2013, 04:39:13 AM
Never heard RB24 ever sharing data to FR24.

AirNav has been selling RadarBox data for many years.  That's why the sharing option always reverts to "On".

Maybe FR24 was a customer?  If it was, maybe it or AirNav cancelled the deal?

Unless we see a statement from FR24, we can speculate until "the cows come home".
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 01, 2013, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: Brian on April 01, 2013, 04:38:10 AM
What you see on RadarBox24 is unique to RadarBox24.

How can AirNav make such statements when it's actively recruiting sharers who currently share with other tracking sites?

More AirNav lies.

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Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 01, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Looks like another AirNav "point gun downwards, aim at foot, fire" moment!  :)

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Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 01, 2013, 08:56:30 AM
Confirmationn that AirNav was stealing and selling our data.

"FR24 has been buying data from RB24 but the agreement stopped today.
What an amazing coincidence that FR24 was once again hit by a DDOS attack and clicks stopped working, exactly the same hour as RB24 made the announcement https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/...09646279164181"

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/5322-False-Statements-by-AirNav-Systems-and-RadarBox24-about-Flightradar24-com?p=30180&viewfull=1#post30180
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Hamish McTorsk on April 01, 2013, 09:47:46 AM
I have always said that RB24 data is delayed and has less traffic than FR24.
See the screenshot I took this morning at 07.58 Zulu over Copenhagen Center.
You will see for yourselves what I mean.

The screenshot was taken from a computer with RB24 on the left screen and FR24 on the right.
Right click on the image to see a very large version.

As far as todays DDOS attack against FR24 goes.....................
Think about this............
In order to launch an attack the enemy has to have control of many computers over the internet, they gain control via trojans in infected computers, these trojans are delivered as part of software packages amongst other methods.
Who has distributed software to 1000's of computers worldwide with various types of applications.
Who has a vested interest in seeing FR24 fail ??

Food for thought.

(http://fototalk.dk/images/compare.jpg)
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: north borneo radar on April 01, 2013, 01:19:48 PM
As mentioned by another member at FR24 forum at this link:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/5322-False-Statements-by-AirNav-Systems-and-RadarBox24-about-Flightradar24-com?p=30180&viewfull=1#post30180

the radar T-F4V is not seen anymore on FR24. Noticeably at Hong Kong and mainland China where now only has feed for Shanghai.

Personally I would do without any data from AirNav to FR24 anymore. The way they get data feeds is questionable as reports from previous airnav users, so I am happy to see FR24 not buying any more data from them.
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 01, 2013, 05:26:28 PM
From the horse's mouth:

"We have been buying data from RB24 (T-F4V) for about 8 months. Last 3-4 months we have not used RB24 data over Europe as the data quality was lower and more delayed compared to our own data. Now when agreement has ended we have lost some coverage in China, Mexico and Colombia, but we are sending out about 10 FR24 boxes every week to catch up the loss. "

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/5322-Data-Sharing-Statement-by-AirNav-Systems-and-RadarBox24-about-Flightradar24-com?p=30201&viewfull=1#post30201
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: birdie on April 02, 2013, 07:45:37 AM
Hi Anmer,

T-F4V - That rings a bell  - now the ringing sound became clearer.

When I was feeding FR24 using T-WSSS4, I noticed T-F4V pop up in my area.

Now it is as clear as a flawless diamond - RB24 CONFIRMED did STOLE my Data and SOLD my stolen DATA to FR24 !


Goodbye AirNav Systems - I have double Padlocked my RadarBox !
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 02, 2013, 07:55:46 AM
That's why I never turn on my RadarBox anymore.  And if I do any testing, I always turn off the sharing default.

How can AirNav justify harvesting my local data without  permission and selling it commercially?

And then charging other RadarBox users to see my data too?

If Google can be fined, so should AirNav.

Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Hamish McTorsk on April 03, 2013, 09:08:28 AM
You gotta love the wee darlins.............

Shortly after posting my earlier message on the Airnav Facebook they deleted it and banned me from making further comments.............

I posted.......................
DDOS attack against FR24
Think about this............
In order to launch an attack the enemy has to have control of many computers over the internet, they gain control via trojans in infected computers, these trojans are delivered as part of software packages amongst other methods.
Who has distributed software to 1000's of computers worldwide with various types of applications.
Who has a vested interest in seeing FR24 fail ??

Just after they deleted my post they posted a new message............
RadarBox24.com All users all welcome to post any comments even negative ones. Anyway we will not allow bad words and unacceptable language in our facebook page - such comments will be immediately removed.
5 ยท Monday at 12:29pm

I did not post any 'bad words'

Like I said, you gotta love the wee darlins, at least they are consistent liars  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: Anmer on April 03, 2013, 09:20:09 AM
That's a coincidence.

I posted a message there a few months back.  No "bad words or unacceptable language".  Just an observation about other aircraft tracking sites.

The post was removed within an hour and now I can't post on the RadarBox24 Facebook page.

Typical Airav.  Says one thing, does the opposite.

Now where's RadarBox version 4.04?
Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: birdie on April 04, 2013, 06:16:56 AM
Quote from: Brian on April 01, 2013, 04:38:10 AM
Posted on March 31, 2013 on Easter Day.
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RadarBox24.com

We are happy to announce that today RadarBox24 stopped sending real-time flight data to the Flightradar24 online tracker.

This means that starting today flights shown on RadarBox24 network are unique to RadarBox24 and will not be shared with other sites. What you see on RadarBox24 is unique to RadarBox24.

https://www.facebook.com/RadarBox24/posts/309646279164181
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah !

What you see in the attached file is indeed "UNIQUE" for Radarbox24.com

Without Birdie's STOLEN Data - Radarbox24.com network is really "UNIQUE".



Interesting comments to read on the facebook link.

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Title: Re: False Statements by AirNav Systems and RadarBox24 about Flightradar24.com ?
Post by: birdie on April 04, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Hamish,

Thanks for taking over my role of posting comparison screen shots between Flightradar24.com and Radarbox24.com

One can see without my Stolen Data, how "unique" Radarbox24.com coverage is.