I see we can now place an advance order for the new 1090-Puck.
The Taylor Made RF Limited website (http://www.taylormaderf.co.uk/page13/page28/rapidcart-50/store.php) is accepting "Direct Orders" for the £249.99 receiver.
Payment isn't required at this stage. The website says the Puck will be available "towards the end of August". I assume that's 2013?
To place an advance order just add the 1090-Puck to the cart and select Direct Order at Checkout.
I also see on his website that he has both units running in his shop. It would be nice if you would do one of his famous youtube video to demenstrate the uints!
Later
I am doing the 1090 now and will have it posted before the weekend
:)
Make it a good one Chris.
You wouldn't want Brandao, or Dan the Ban, making a spoof "Unboxing the 1090-Puck", now would you?
;) :) :)
Can I confirm that the 1090 Puck that can be pre-ordered is the one thats previously been referred to as the Blue Puck ? (Namely the one without the SDR capability)
Many thanks,
Ian H.
Yes
The 1090 Puck is ADS-B so an SBS-3 without SDR and the SDR-Puck is the SDR receiver without 1090
So for Planes 1090 Puck
For noise SDR Puck
8)
Can't find your puck video on youtube???
You wont I have not finished it yet Hopefully will do on Monday
Regards
Chris,
Will it be on your youtube channel or the Kinetic channel please?
Put your puck video on YouTube Chris. I've pre-ordered mine from your website and me and a few others are keen to see what were getting. Thanks.
Has the 1090-Puck got an ethernet connection?
Quote from: Dreamliner787 on August 08, 2013, 09:13:02 AM
Has the 1090-Puck got an ethernet connection?
Nope. Well it didn't the last time I checked.
My guess it's aimed at those who go out and about and want a small receiver connected to a laptop.
Quote from: Anmer on August 08, 2013, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Dreamliner787 on August 08, 2013, 09:13:02 AM
Has the 1090-Puck got an ethernet connection?
Nope. Well it didn't the last time I checked.
My guess it's aimed at those who go out and about and want a small receiver connected to a laptop.
My DVB-T stick does that and it only cost me 8 Euros from China ;) At 250 quid I would have hoped for a LAN Port or even WLAN capability to be honest. That said, I am sure it will pick up more contacts than the cheaper alternatives, and of course you have Basestation aswell which in my opinion has a much nicer appearance than Planeplotter.
It's a difficult choice especially when one looks at the price differential.
I haven't seen, let alone used, a Puck. But I'm told it's got the same 1090 receiver as the SBS-3 which I found to be the most sensitive of the range.
I have a couple of $20 dongles and, out-of-the box, they need some tender loving care to setup and start tracking aircraft. But I must admit that on my Wimo external antenna I get very good range but not as many aircraft plots as the SBS-3.
I too prefer Basestation to every other user interface I can think off, including RadarBox. Basestation offers considerable customisation but lacks some features that are long overdue, such as undocking the aircraft list from the map and adding filters and alerts. There's a long "Wish List, both in numbers of items and length of time it's been around and I'm surprised these haven't been released.
Where the Puck should score is it's receiver quality, small footprint, ease of setup, Basestation and SQL database. A dongle has a small footprint but not much else, other than price.
I think the Puck will sell but it may cannibalise SBS-3 sales.
Are we not getting a youtube demo Chris?
I hope there's not be a hostile takeover by Radarbox over there at Elstree :o
There is a message on the TaylormadeRF website that says Chris is not in for a couple of days this week. So that may explain why there is no response yet.
I am also looking forward to getting my puck .. It will save me having to dismantle my SBS when I go abroad a couple of times in the next month.
Ian H
Quote from: craig7653 on August 31, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
Are we not getting a youtube demo Chris?
If it just plugs into a laptop as per SBS-1 etc,i doubt there'll be much different to see.
The whole launch,release etc has been a long drawn out shoddy affair - and getting any information at all has been like getting blood out of a stone.
Did either of the competition winners ever report back on the Pucks performance?
Quote from: vortex003 on September 03, 2013, 01:31:40 PM
Did either of the competition winners ever report back on the Pucks performance?
Not that I'm aware. And to stress, it was a Kinetic competition, not a Radarspotting one.
Well I am a winner. To this day I have not yet had this item working with my sbs1.
So as I have not had it working I cannot give a report on it. ;D
Regarding the second winner I have not heard from him either.
Quote from: mhm on September 03, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
Well I am a winner. To this day I have not yet had this item working with my sbs1.
I thought you won the stand-alone SDR puck?
I take both your points guys (and I wasn't suggesting it was a Radarspotting competition ;))
Nor should it be up to the winners to give feedback,or comparisons with other boxes etc - but I thought it was strange that neither person had posted to say the things actually worked!
You say you have not had it working - is that because it doesn't?
That I did Mike.
but the question was Did either of the competition winners ever report back on the Pucks performance?
Had a few software problems with it then a HD failure, not been bothered since.
Will play with it as a stand alone item when I have time. It does look nice though ;D
Quote from: mhm on September 03, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
It does look nice though ;D
That's good.Lucky you won it then - I don't fancy shelling out £250 for an ornament ???
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Chris-G0WTZ on August 01, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
I am doing the 1090 now and will have it posted before the weekend
:)
Quote from: craig7653 on August 04, 2013, 07:27:07 PM
Can't find your puck video on youtube???
Quote from: Chris-G0WTZ on August 04, 2013, 11:06:10 PM
You wont I have not finished it yet Hopefully will do on Monday
Regards
Chris,
Seeing that you have posted elsewhere, so you are back from wherever you have been hiding for the past few weeks, any chance of this video now please?
Tim
I GIVE UP!!!
Quote from: craig7653 on September 22, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
I GIVE UP!!!
Me too - long ago.Only Gerald Ratner could do a worse job of marketing a product.
I was assured today that a Puck will be available to me to buy for the competition prize.
Phoned Taylor made Rf the other day to see where the puck are. I was told HOPEFULLY end of October now.......
I hope that's reliable as I need one for a competition winner!
I wouldn't hold your breath. I'm fast losing faith. They never reply to emails and it took me several attempts to speak to someone on the phone.... Very disappointed.
Very poor!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaky
Quote from: craig7653 on October 11, 2013, 09:44:46 AM
I wouldn't hold your breath. I'm fast losing faith. They never reply to emails and it took me several attempts to speak to someone on the phone.... Very disappointed.
Have this lot attended the Air Nav Systems Customer Support course?
I rest my case from the other days comment. Im sure they want us to get enthusiastic, put our hands deep down in our pockets and part with hard earned cash because this puck is the new religion. mm could atheism be the way forward 'cause seeing is believing and false promises don't really inspire us.
And how many of us will feel the need to give up our portable SBS models for a puck that seems to have taken forever to come onstream. By now the technology is not new and while tweaks and refinements need to be tested to destruction the knowledge base is very comprehensive. so imho this puck has really gonna have to deliver something outstanding to persuade me to give up my sbs box. And while SBS3 was a marked way forward I see many spotters around the UK and the world who are now linking into FR24 which ironically is probably fed by SBS users at home bases. So I wait with quiet reservations both on the release dates and the bang for bucks options. :-\
The whole saga so far has been a shambles - and another Xmas is not far away (remember the competition which promised Pucks in time for Xmas 2012,and then ran into 2013?)
No feedback from either 'winner',no replies to numerous posts on the various forums - I planned to purchase one on release,but should my SBS1 ever give up I may just abandon the hobby.SBS3 has too many bells and whistles I don't need,and I have lost interest in the Puck. :(
I always wondered about the future of the Pucks. When announced, it seemed like Kinetic had figured out there were people who didn't need the bells and whistles of the SBS-3 (and would have bought an SBS-1 if still available) so this was obviously the solution.
However Kinetic hadn't allowed for the DVB-T USB dongle which appeared soon after. Initially needing Linux skills to get it working, the appearance of ADSB#, SDR# and RTL-1090 meant that Windows users could receive ATC and ADSB transmissions via these £12 dongles. Sometimes a bit of a hassle to get working judging by the requests for help. An easy to set up Puck could have been the answer. Instead how many persevered because of the lack of a Puck, got it working ok and are still happily using it/them?
Interestingly, Kinetic dumped its dealer network about the same time. relying on Chris Taylor to take up the poisoned chalice task.
So what took so long to get the Puck into production? With Airnav not seriously a competitor, the Puck might have beaten off the dongle competition. Now, though with an upgraded FR24 and a dongle option, who needs a Puck?
Ian
PS the winner of the SDR Puck has mentioned on here that he never got it working.
Quote from: IanH on October 11, 2013, 07:00:54 PM
Ian
PS the winner of the SDR Puck has mentioned on here that he never got it working.
Sorry - I should have written no feedback regards functional working Pucks.This started alarm bells ringing quite a while ago.
What about the Radio User magazine test - did that analysis ever make it into print?
The above comments only go to endorse the disappointment and perhaps the cynical approach to this "project"
Whether there is any future in the puck remains to be seen, but I would be very surprised if any of us older sbs users are likely to "stop me and buy one".
What could have been a lucrative spin off on the back of SBS3 has now begun to become more of a "whatever"(US accent) dismissive stance.
That's sad because while everyone is bad mouthing other companies (RB for example) it doesn't seem to have spurred any greater impetus in SBS to capitalize on the negative publicity. If anything it has just added more to the whole debacle.
Perhaps the designers/owners have lost sincere interest in us over and above making a fast return on profits. But many of us are more savvy than that and are more likely to approach any proposed "new" concept with caution and in these economical times not so swift to part with cash.
Quote from: vortex003 on October 11, 2013, 06:27:20 PM
The whole saga so far has been a shambles - and another Xmas is not far away (remember the competition which promised Pucks in time for Xmas 2012,and then ran into 2013?)
No feedback from either 'winner',no replies to numerous posts on the various forums - I planned to purchase one on release,but should my SBS1 ever give up I may just abandon the hobby.SBS3 has too many bells and whistles I don't need,and I have lost interest in the Puck. :(
Well said. It was towards November when the Puck was announced. an email sent for further info request just had no reply (to kinetics at that time, well at least say sorry can't provide information for now) then there was no information at all. Fast forward to now and yes it's near Christmas for 2013. Poor really. You could argue the same for the supposed to be sold FR24 receiver, but at least that is in production for FR24 for it's free receivers for applicants who passed their assessment. But yeah, definitely lost interest with the Puck. Who needs a Puck when there's a dongle?
I remember when Kinetic started out, the forum introduced. All kinetic were members and contributed on it. Photos of the kinetic team put on the net. Where are all these people today?.
Is kinetic just David, Keith, and AN Other, it would be nice to see who's who in the company now.
I have to agree that Kinetic may have damaged its reputation with the Puck debacle and adopting AirNav-like promotional hype.
When Chris mentioned the £250 price I thought it was too high when DVB-T USB sticks could be bought for a tenth of that. But I suspect £250 will just about cover the production and distribution costs and yield a small margin.
Kinetic produces high quality and very reliable devices, unlike most of the alternatives. So why the hesitation?
My guess is the delay is all to do with having to commit money up-front to manufacture an initial production run, especially at a time when Flightradar are shipping 50 free receivers a week and Flightaware, Planefinder and AirNav are offering free ones as well.
I did a presentation at the Kinetic open day a few years ago, highlighting the massive difference is sales of Mode-S receivers and airband scanners. In my view, Kinetic doesn't market its consumer products, instead relying on a dealer network. But it also missed a major opportunity when it decided not to support data sharing.
Clearly there is substantial, worldwide interest in tracking aircraft but Kinetic has failed to capitalise on this, leaving it to Flightradar24 to innovate and dominate the app market.
But without an existing network of SBS and other receivers, Flightradar24 et al wouldn't have got off the ground. Kinetic's view was that FR24 wouldn't last and the "authorities" would shut it down. The same excuse used in 2006 when we complained about the non-arrival of the Kinetic MapModeS data sharing.
I will continue to admire David Goodman and his team for being first on the grid with the SBS-1 and I still enjoy chatting with Chris Taylor, even when we disagree.
But since announcing the Puck range in August 2012, the silence has been deafening, as it is today.
It's a pity, as I'm sure many DVB-T users will want to upgrade to a more reliable receiver with a customisable software interface. But it will need "marketing".
Quote from: Anmer on October 12, 2013, 09:10:49 AM
Kinetic produces high quality and very reliable devices, unlike most of the alternatives. So why the hesitation?
But since announcing the Puck range in August 2012, the silence has been deafening, as it is today.
Exactly!!
I agree Mike.
While its true, raising cash flow to set up production, distribution and sales is a task in itself, the fact that we "could" pre-order devices would in earlier times been a "given" to help move project forward and because the confidence we had gained to date that would have been enough. But I think even if regularly we had been given some development news (without betraying any secrets) our patience while stretched would have still held out. After all our very hobby cultivates such a quality - you cant always get to see what you want and sometimes it takes years to bag that elusive plane (23 years in my case for one), so we're not a erratic, capricious lot of enthusiasts. Yet the guys that can make it so much more enjoyable and financially gain personal benefits (rightly and not begrudged) seem to not be that bothered. Have they made such a killing with all previous sbs devices they don't want to push their luck? mm maybe there's a hidden truth there? Im sure this thread will perpetuate for some time yet hey ho 8)
I already have a SBS-3, and I love it. This is after previously owning a SBS-1 Classic. I also have a MicroADSB and two Dongles. I bought the Dongles from China on eBay at a cost of 8.33 Euros each. No import TAX because the cost was below the limit for electronics in Germany. That is about 7 quid each. So for the price of one Puck I could get 35 Dongles ! Now, would I currently by a Puck even if I did not already have a SBS-3 ? No way. Why, because I could get so many Dongles instead ? No. The reason would be that next to nothing that has been requested as improvements or additions to the Software "Basestation" has been implemented. Yes, we now have a radio interface, which of course was needed, but what about the many other suggestions like dual-monitor support (radar on one screen, list on the other), the ability to block certain HEX codes (GND use ones etc) along with all the other really good ideas. Basestation is effectively the same as it was when I bought my first SBS-1 more than 7 years ago. I much prefer the layout of Basestation, but Planeplotter is continually evolving and offers so much more. Even though I don't need a Puck, if it came with the promise of exclusive improvements to Basestation, then I really would be parting with 250 quid !
Quote from: Saudistu on October 13, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Yes, we now have a radio interface, which of course was needed,
This may have been on some peoples wish list,but not mine.
As the owner of a few scanners,the last thing I wanted was extra 'radios' (at extra cost) which I don't need,which is why I won't ever buy a SBS3 - and whilst the 1090 Puck is allegedly a mini SBS1 it does seem a bit overpriced in comparison to the SBS1
So then is the feed back based on some your comments "Chris sort it or scrap it!"
If The Dealers are getting Fobbed off. What chance do we have?. :(
Quote from: hispeedbypass on October 13, 2013, 04:19:39 PM
So then is the feed back based on some your comments "Chris sort it or scrap it!"
Chris can only do what Kinetic give him.
That's true, but a bit more communication would be good.
If there are delays why not be open about them?
It won't make the items magically appear earlier but it might help stop some of the criticism...
Cheers,
Keef.
Quote from: Keef on October 13, 2013, 06:13:33 PM
That's true, but a bit more communication would be good.
If there are delays why not be open about them?
It won't make the items magically appear earlier but it might help stop some of the criticism...
Cheers,
Keef.
Why not ask that question on Kinetics forum. it may then get an answer from David Goodman
Well,
As there is a thread here and Chris has previously posted in it I thought it might be worth posting my opinion in a hopefully constructive way, but maybe not.
As this forum is the one I read most often for the hobby I posted here so if Chris does reply I would see it.
I most likely wouldn't on the Kinetic forum as I don't visit it very often.
I appreciate the point that the Kinetic forum might have been a better place to post all the same.
Quote from: vortex003 on October 13, 2013, 07:40:15 AM
Quote from: Saudistu on October 13, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Yes, we now have a radio interface, which of course was needed,
This may have been on some peoples wish list,but not mine.
As the owner of a few scanners,the last thing I wanted was extra 'radios' (at extra cost) which I don't need,which is why I won't ever buy a SBS3 - and whilst the 1090 Puck is allegedly a mini SBS1 it does seem a bit overpriced in comparison to the SBS1
By needed I meant because they added a radio to the Receiver, not because it was "needed" due to the Basestation wishlist :)
Quote from: Anmer on October 11, 2013, 09:40:31 AM
I hope that's reliable as I need one for a competition winner!
A few months' ago, I had this uneasy feelings that the "Punk" will create some unhappiness.
So, I made fun of the delayed "Punk" by posting a Picture of the local equivalent of the "Punk" - actually a round shaped Wireless Router that I have in my home - to brighten up the forum.
But, someone deleted my posting.
Today, we can see the unhappiness from the postings here.
Quote from: mhm on October 13, 2013, 08:19:30 PM
Why not ask that question on Kinetics forum. it may then get an answer from David Goodman
I have seen the 'administrators' logged on to that forum on many occasions - however many questions go unanswered......
Posted on the Kinetic forum on 29th September 2013, 15 days ago and not a single reply!
"Where the f€$# is the puck
Postby burnleybuzz » Sunday 29th September 2013 21:58:19
Does anybody have an idea when the 1090 Puck is going to be released? "
http://www.kinetic.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=16087&sid=74ea64750f6157b34793b12ff21ef777#p132056
But posted off topic in a group "SBS-3 and ACARS" that doesn't have many visitors so possibly missed by everyone?
Quote from: IanH on October 14, 2013, 06:04:59 PM
But posted off topic in a group "SBS-3 and ACARS" that doesn't have many visitors so possibly missed by everyone?
As a forum Mod, I view all posts, as do most Mods on other forums.
Quote from: IanH on October 14, 2013, 06:04:59 PM
But posted off topic in a group "SBS-3 and ACARS" that doesn't have many visitors so possibly missed by everyone?
If it was off topic the mods / admin on the forum should have moved it to the correct thread - and maybe took a minute to answer the question whilst they were at it ;)
Regards the thread title - do Kinetic really expect many advance orders based on the feedback potential customers have received since product 'launch'?
We need to be careful not to lose sight of the ball. this particular thread appears to be where most members have vented their spleen. and in reality unless Kinetic are bothered enough to read our forum and value our observations and gripes very little progress will be made. We may not have run out of steam on this subject and I'm sure once and if the puck gets released there will be plenty of feedback for us to chew over.
in the meantime 2014 looms on the horizon - maybe we are on the cusp of exciting things ::)
Another competition, I could win one of the others? ;D
Quote from: hispeedbypass on October 14, 2013, 09:08:30 PM
We need to be careful not to lose sight of the ball. this particular thread appears to be where most members have vented their spleen. and in reality unless Kinetic are bothered enough to read our forum and value our observations and gripes very little progress will be made. We may not have run out of steam on this subject and I'm sure once and if the puck gets released there will be plenty of feedback for us to chew over.
in the meantime 2014 looms on the horizon - maybe we are on the cusp of exciting things ::)
I totally agree.
I used to enjoy this site which afforded sensible discussion and help on the subject of radarspotting but now seems to consist of little more than a few whingers who spend their time complaining about AirNav and Kinetic. I sold my RadarBox years ago and moved on. Nothing that is said here or on any other forum will bother Airnav, so forget them
As for Kinetic, well, we had similar problems with SBS-3, but it was worth waiting for. I imagine they either have some production problems or some last minute bugs to iron out and Chris also has the rest of his business to keep running. I have always found him to be a good guy when it comes to support, so lets cut him some slack.
The biggest whinger is someone who has a free FR24 kit and is not likely to be in the market for anything else so I can't imagine anyone is going to take notice of his childish rants. Personally, if I see another of his puerile posts I shall pack in visiting this site.
Tom
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 07:13:15 AM
I used to enjoy this site which afforded sensible discussion and help on the subject of radarspotting but now seems to consist of little more than a few whingers who spend their time complaining about AirNav and Kinetic.
Have you noticed that, apart from logos, databases updates and Brian's cross posting, all the forums have fewer posts these days? Flightradar24 has commoditised the hobby.
I was told I could buy a Puck as a competition prize so I have a personal interest in this topic but have tried to post an objective view.
But I have no problem with anyone "whinging" about AirNav, Kinetic or anyone else when it's justified. The 14 month delay in the availability of the Puck and AirNav making unsubstantiated claims are OK by me.
Those who don't want to read such posts can either ignore them or, as Tom suggests, can stop visiting the forum.
Quote from: Anmer on October 15, 2013, 07:59:12 AM
Have you noticed that, apart from logos, databases updates and Brian's cross posting, all the forums have fewer posts these days? Flightradar24 has commoditised the hobby.
FR24 has certainly not commoditised the hobby, Mike. PlanePlotter Yahoo forum is increasing members and PP is increasing groundstations every day. FR24 is still lacking decent coverage for non-positionals and I personally doubt that they will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has now. More and more people are buying dongles now and more stations are feeding Flightaware from Plane Plotter - a jump from 0 to 145 stations in less than a month. For those stations Flightaware gives a free Enterprise Subscription worth $90 a month. I personally do not believe that FR24 will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has.
Quote from: Anmer
I was told I could buy a Puck as a competition prize so I have a personal interest in this topic but have tried to post an objective view.
Mike, I empathise with you regarding the Puck for a prize, but I think you should have waited until they were actually on sale.
Quote from: Anmer
But I have no problem with anyone "whinging" about AirNav, Kinetic or anyone else when it's justified. The 14 month delay in the availability of the Puck and AirNav making unsubstantiated claims are OK by me. Those who don't want to read such posts can either ignore them or, as Tom suggests, can stop visiting the forum.
Mike, you and I go back a way and I have always held you in high esteem. You and Hamish did wonders in setting up Radarspotters and this site and your technical assistance has been second to none. However, I do think that you are now letting your personal feelings cloud your judgement. I think that the reason this site is now getting so little activity is because people see very little to interest them and are probably put off by the incessant whingeing about the same subjects.
I live in a little paradise here and most of my days are spent in sublime happiness so I can do without having my euphoria spoiled. I shall continue to visit the forum but I shall steer well clear of anything concerning AirNav or the Puck.
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
I personally do not believe that FR24 will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has.
I think you'll find that FR24 has three times the number of PP sharers.
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
Mike, I empathise with you regarding the Puck for a prize, but I think you should have waited until they were actually on sale.
I was told they would be on sale by the time the competition ended.
Quote from: Anmer on October 15, 2013, 09:51:34 AM
I think you'll find that FR24 has three times the number of PP sharers.
Well their mlatted aircraft numbers don't support that statement - at least not in the UK.
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 10:53:15 AM
Well their mlatted aircraft numbers don't support that statement - at least not in the UK.
I was responding to your comment:
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
I personally do not believe that FR24 will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has.
OK Mike, so where is the evidence of how many feeders they have?
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
OK Mike, so where is the evidence of how many feeders they have?
Please see:
http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3836-Flightradar24-app-on-iOS-(iPhone-iPad-and-iPod)?p=39555&viewfull=1#post39555
I have no reason to question that claim.
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 07:13:15 AM
a few whingers who spend their time complaining about AirNav and Kinetic.
And while you are entitled to your opinion,if a firm is looking for £250 of my money for a product i think i have a right to know if and when i am likely to receive it - (and that it works)
Some of the Airnav rants were a bit tedious though i agree.
Quote from: Anmer on October 15, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Please see:
http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3836-Flightradar24-app-on-iOS-(iPhone-iPad-and-iPod)?p=39555&viewfull=1#post39555
I have no reason to question that claim.
Hardly
evidence Mike. As for over 100 in the UK I think PP went past that a long time ago. Perhaps John Locker will advise us of the true figure. I'm sure he can provide the evidence too.
I see there is an Administrator with the handle 'Mike' on the FR24 forum - not you is it?
Crikey Tom, who's pi**ed on your porridge today?
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: Anmer on October 15, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Please see:
http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3836-Flightradar24-app-on-iOS-(iPhone-iPad-and-iPod)?p=39555&viewfull=1#post39555
I have no reason to question that claim.
Hardly evidence Mike. As for over 100 in the UK I think PP went past that a long time ago. Perhaps John Locker will advise us of the true figure. I'm sure he can provide the evidence too.
I see there is an Administrator with the handle 'Mike' on the FR24 forum - not you is it?
Just someone neutral here stating a fact and I am sure others can support me on this too. The Mike on FR24 forum is not Anmer/Mike on this forum. That Mike actually works for FR24 in Sweden.
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:27 PM
Hardly evidence Mike.
I see there is an Administrator with the handle 'Mike' on the FR24 forum - not you is it?
No it's not me.
As I said, I have no reason to question that number.
I'm not playing "mine's bigger than yours", just responding to your comments.
Mike's quote was "100+ in central UK". I suspect the number of active UK feeders is far greater than that as we have nearly as many sharing via SBS1 Client.
Has anyone telephoned Chris to find out the problem with the Puck?
I just want to clarify some incorrect rumors posted in here. I Mike on this forum and I'm Mike on FR24 forum and I work for FR24.
FR24 have about 2600 unique feeder-ID's feeding FR24 every (this) week and that number is currently increasing by about 50-60 feeders per week.
Out of this 2600 about 450 are feeders from FR24 hardware and rest use own hardware. In UK we currently have 100+ software feeders and 28 feeders with FR24 hardware capable of doing MLAT. This is the current MLAT coverage in Europe.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5175572/mlat23.PNG)
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 05:48:35 PM
Has anyone telephoned Chris to find out the problem with the Puck?
Yes.
Quote from: craig7653 on October 11, 2013, 09:44:46 AM
I wouldn't hold your breath. I'm fast losing faith. They never reply to emails and it took me several attempts to speak to someone on the phone.... Very disappointed.
QuoteHas anyone telephoned Chris to find out the problem with the Puck?
What's he going to say? He was on the forum today at 1638 so probably saw the comments.
But if Kinetic have told him to make "no comment" on the situation, he is having to live with that knowing he has potential customers but can't explain the delays.
I phoned Chris today and he answered the phone straight away.
Quote from: viking9 on October 15, 2013, 11:00:36 PM
I phoned Chris today and he answered the phone straight away.
Great. Did he announce when the Puck will be available?
I didn't ask him about the Puck as I'm not interested in buying one. I was phoning regarding an antenna.
Chris was his usual kind and courteous self. In conversation he did mention that SBS-3s are flying off the shelves.
Quote from: viking9 on October 16, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Chris was his usual kind and courteous self. In conversation he did mention that SBS-3s are flying off the shelves.
Yes, I agree, Chris is always kind and courteous.
If SBS-3 sales are going so well maybe there's no incentive to make the Puck(s)?
I think i'm going to use the money I put aside for the puck on something else now. Just getting fed up of waiting. Nearly 2 months ago I was told the puck would be here within 10 days......
Quote from: craig7653 on October 27, 2013, 11:13:50 AM
I think i'm going to use the money I put aside for the puck on something else now. Just getting fed up of waiting. Nearly 2 months ago I was told the puck would be here within 10 days......
They're too busy selling SBS-3s'.......
Pass me the salt please ;D
Just received this from Chris Taylor at Taylor Made RF:
"Thank you for your order enquiry for the Kinetic 1090 Puck
I am delighted to tell you we have now had confirmation of delivery on or before the 1st of December
Apologies for the delay.
I will send an invite to pay two weeks before dispatch."
mmm convenient for xmas don't you think?
Sounds more and more like a certain other virtual radar receiver CEO's timescale promise. Hope I'm wrong.
It's a shame Chris didn't let everyone else know about delivery date. I've pre ordered and heard nothing. They have lost my custom now. They don't even answer enquiries..... Very poor.
I too pre-ordered (for the competition prize) and received an automated email confirming availability.
And I always get an automatic email acknowledgement to any emails I send as well as a follow up one or phone call.
Craig can you ping me your email in a PM? I pride myself in speedy replies to emails so I am curious why you have not heard from me.
Did you get an auto response?
I did PM you Chris and you did indeed get back to me very quickly. So thank you. You did also say you would upload a video to youtube about the puck, so we will look forward to that.
The first production batch of Kinetic Avionics 1090 Pucks have now been signed off by the factory and arrive with me Monday morning.
If you have one on order expect delivery early next week (Outside UK may be a little longer subject to local post)
These Pucks are selling very fast please order now to save disappointment for Christmas
http://www.taylormaderf.co.uk/page13/page12/page28/rapidcart-50/store.php
;D
Hi Guys
MY prize from the Radarspotting raffle - the 1090 Puck - arrived by carrier yesterday afternoon. :)
Installed new version of BaseStation from disc, plugged in and running beautifully. 8)
A big THANK YOU to Mike and Chris.
Charlie
Worth the wait Charlie?
Quote from: charliebrown on December 11, 2013, 09:49:27 AM
Hi Guys
MY prize from the Radarspotting raffle - the 1090 Puck - arrived by carrier yesterday afternoon. :)
Installed new version of BaseStation from disc, plugged in and running beautifully. 8)
A big THANK YOU to Mike and Chris.
Charlie
A "first impressions" review would be really helpful to those of us undecided about shelling out the cash for a new Puck.
Stephen
ANy news on the SDR puck??? and can I use it in conjuction with my trusty old SBS-1???
Or am I going to have to buy an SBS-3
Cheers
Andy
We are just finalising the SDR Puck software to allow it to co exist with your trusty SBS or a 1090 PUCK details in a few days
Regards
Hi Mike
It was well worth waiting for the 1090 Puck.
Loaded in the latest Basestation 1.2.4.183 software, changed Settings / Data Source to USB and plugged in supplied antenna. Attached double ended USB plug to PC and the Puck and it worked a dream.
I also tried setting it up with a laptop and worked beautifully. Puck, leads and antenna all light enough to carry around when on the move.
The puck also seems to work fine with a single ended USB plug as well.
Having an SBS21-er, I will use the puck for when I am on the move away from home with a laptop.
Charlie
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Quote from: Chris-G0WTZ on December 12, 2013, 10:52:07 AM
We are just finalising the SDR Puck software to allow it to co exist with your trusty SBS or a 1090 PUCK details in a few days
Regards
Thanks Chris, excellent news!!
Andy
Will the 1.2.4.183 release be of any use with an SBS3, if so, is it available on line?
Mike
Hi Folks. Agree with Charlie Nice bit of Kit. Wait for better weather then Antenna outdoors.
Shaky
Will this work in line with basestation reporter (VER 1.0.0.28 )already installed as i have spent last year or so refining text,ops flags and other ammendments such a sub types etc? I have no intention of doing that again besides which my own bespoke sightings may not be included with new software files so feed back on compatability with SBS1ER (VER 1.2.3.168) would be helpful.
Reporter is only a user interface to the database file - Basestation.sqb.
I don't have a Puck but my guess is you could plug it in and use with your existing Basestation files, avoiding the need to install anything.
Or just copy your existing Basestation.sqb file to replace the empty one installed from the supplied CD.
All you need for the PUCK is the new EXE file :)
By the way if you have reporter ver .28 it is the old one 29 is the latest so download the latest CD on the kinetic site and copy over the latest Reporter exe
Quote from: Chris-G0WTZ on December 13, 2013, 09:20:24 AM
All you need for the PUCK is the new EXE file :)
That's the Basestation.exe?
The Puck won't work with an older exe file?
Latest version is now on the Kinetic website
;)
:) While your in the meeting talking about software updates. Would be nice if basestation could listen to 2 or more puck/sbs-3 at one time. ;D
Later
How could you ever listen to 12 stations at the same time?
Whats the red part of the usb cable used for ? Got one with the SBS3 too but never used it.
Thx
Quote from: B767336 on December 14, 2013, 02:44:30 PM
Whats the red part of the usb cable used for ? Got one with the SBS3 too but never used it.
To plug into another USB port to deliver more DC power if required. For the SBS-3 to power the radio and receiver at same time.
Thanks
I am quite impressed with the performance, convenience of size etc .. I have bought a nice sturdy satnav case from ebay to cart it around .... My only slight grumble (if you can call it that) is all the stuff written on the Puck ... I would have preferred to have had a completely blank puck to potentially save any awkward questions if it gets looked at in countries that may not accept and understand our hobby .... I know it can peel off by the looks of it but it would have been nice to have had a blank one from the word go ...
Other than that .... Very much recommended ....
Ian H.
QuoteMy only slight grumble (if you can call it that) is all the stuff written on the Puck .
That's what I thought when I saw the pictures.
I'll continue with an anonymous DVB-T dongle to watch TV while I'm away ;)
A hair dryer on a low setting and the stickers come off cleanly :-)
Quote from: IanH654 on December 16, 2013, 08:21:02 AM
I am quite impressed with the performance, convenience of size etc .. I have bought a nice sturdy satnav case from ebay to cart it around .... My only slight grumble (if you can call it that) is all the stuff written on the Puck ... I would have preferred to have had a completely blank puck to potentially save any awkward questions if it gets looked at in countries that may not accept and understand our hobby .... I know it can peel off by the looks of it but it would have been nice to have had a blank one from the word go ...
Other than that .... Very much recommended ....
Ian H.
I would have thought that after the people who have been caught and prosecuted & jailed ;D, you would have more sense than to try your luck. Just remember a British passport does not give immunity from that countries laws.