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Mode-S Software => PlanePlotter => Topic started by: Breitling on March 01, 2014, 12:04:42 PM

Title: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 01, 2014, 12:04:42 PM
I have two PP instances running in different locations:

#1: ver 6.4.1.5 feeded by 2 dongles. I can see the mode-S pulse rate window (pressing "S") and rate filter window (pressing "y").

#2: ver 6.4.1.5 feeded by an FR24 box. Pressing "S" I can see the pulse rate window, but there's no data at all. I can't see the rate filter window, no way to open it. Maybe FR24 box does not provide these data? Anyway I can log both identifier and pulse rate pings.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: viking9 on March 01, 2014, 12:43:28 PM
Have you tried "File/Recover lost windows"?

Tom
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 01, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
Thanks Tom. Tried now but nothing happens.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: viking9 on March 01, 2014, 04:02:51 PM
I suggest you ask on the PlanePlotter Yahoo Group.

Tom
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: kered on March 06, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
If its any help the beast sends this data, Just got it back today, maybe if the FR24 box has dip switches that might be the cause
http://wiki.modesbeast.com/Mode-S_Beast:DIP_Switches could give you some idea. I know PP has a dip switch overide but it doesn't work.

When they fixed my Beast and sent it back it wasn't sending any data at all, when i enquired if they said they had changed the dip settings to test all aspects and forgot to reset them, I tried using the PP dip overide but nothing till i physically did them inside the box.

cheers
Derek
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 06, 2014, 02:47:32 PM
Derek, thanks a lot, at least something to watch to. No answer here nor in PP group.

BTW, my second FR24 box is approved and in transit, Mlat will improve in our area. Now looking for some receiver (better than dongles) to feed PP network properly.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Bethsalem on March 06, 2014, 05:09:22 PM
Breitling

My personal opinion is that the Radarbox is perfect for feeding the PP network and I have one which I can sell on to you for a great price.

Only joking!  :) It's incapable of MLAT!

The choice is really between a Kinetic receiver (SBS1/3, Puck) or a Transponder Mouse/Beast.

I got my Beast secondhand for an excellent price and it's now given me two years of flawless service, and is perfect for use with PP (Beamfinder and MLAT).

Stephen
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 06, 2014, 10:31:21 PM
As a near ignorant on ADS-B hardware, I'm going to hijack my own thread

Quote from: Bethsalem on March 06, 2014, 05:09:22 PM
The choice is really between a Kinetic receiver (SBS1/3, Puck) or a Transponder Mouse/Beast.

What's the difference between the Transponder Mouse and the Beast?

Advantages using an additional miniADSB-receiver?

Puck or Beast?

Radarcape sounds really nice, but far away from my budget.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Anmer on March 07, 2014, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Breitling on March 06, 2014, 10:31:21 PM
What's the difference between the Transponder Mouse and the Beast?

The Beast comes in self-assembly kit form, the Transponder Mouse is a pre-built version of the Beast.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 07, 2014, 08:35:11 AM
Quote from: Anmer on March 07, 2014, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: Breitling on March 06, 2014, 10:31:21 PM
What's the difference between the Transponder Mouse and the Beast?

The Beast comes in self-assembly kit form, the Transponder Mouse is a pre-built version of the Beast.

Ok, so no further or important differences between them. Using an additional miniADSB-receiver is just to increase coverage with another antenna, or there are some other benefits?
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Bethsalem on March 07, 2014, 10:42:09 AM
Yes, really just to increase coverage. You could be using an omni-directional antenna and a directional one feeding into a 2 channel Beast/Mouse.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 07, 2014, 12:08:04 PM
Ok, clear now.

Finally: Puck or Beast?   ;D
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Anmer on March 07, 2014, 12:56:26 PM
Quote from: Breitling on March 07, 2014, 12:08:04 PM
Finally: Puck or Beast?   ;D

I think the Puck is better value.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Bethsalem on March 07, 2014, 04:05:13 PM
I reluctantly have to agree.  :D
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 07, 2014, 06:02:09 PM
2-0 till now, not bad....   One last question: what about PP features using a Puck (Beamfinder, Mlat)?
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Chris-G0WTZ on March 07, 2014, 09:53:02 PM
PP sees the PUCK the same as an SBS-3 on USB so Beamfinder etc al work fine

Regards
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 07, 2014, 10:39:58 PM
Thanks Chris, now I have enough data to decide.
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: kered on March 09, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
You can fit a lantronix ethernet module to the beast not sure about the puck if it has one, maybe handy in your situation for remote control. It doesn't need a pc to send data to anywhere.

cheers
Derek
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 09, 2014, 10:02:54 AM
Quote from: kered on March 09, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
You can fit a lantronix ethernet module to the beast not sure about the puck if it has one, maybe handy in your situation for remote control. It doesn't need a pc to send data to anywhere.

That's really interesting. Do you mean something like this?

http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/external-device-servers/xdirect.html
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Anmer on March 09, 2014, 11:24:18 AM
Quote from: Breitling on March 09, 2014, 10:02:54 AM
That's really interesting. Do you mean something like this?

The Puck doesn't have a serial port and I don't think the Beast has either.

I use a Silex USB/Ethernet device server.  Mine is the SX-DS-3000WAN.

http://www.silexeurope.com/en/home/products/usb-device-servers/

Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: kered on March 13, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
Sorry for the late reply, been busy in the fields with this fine weather, http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/embedded-device-servers/xport.html is the loose ethernet module

http://wiki.modesbeast.com/Mode-S_Beast:Lantronix_Xport_Assembly is the assembly page and the available kit is i think this
http://www.jmz-shop.de/mode-s-beast/product.php?id_product=12, slightly more expensive as it comes with a bigger box etc to fit everything in it. Its the one i have.
regards
Derek
Title: Re: Mode-S pulse rate window
Post by: Breitling on March 13, 2014, 06:45:44 PM
Many thanks Derek, thinking now what's more convenient for me.