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Mode-S Software => RadarBox => Topic started by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 08:47:29 AM

Title: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 08:47:29 AM
I must have missed this or has this product been available for some time?

No pricing details (which makes me think it's not cheap) and aimed for the "professional"market.  Might alos explain the offer of a free RadarBox?

http://www.airnavsystems.com/FlightData/index.html

There's also a Ship Data version which must be reselling data from AISHub?
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 09:04:49 AM
 Hi Anmer  I know you told me not to post any AIS CRAP! The shiptrax-pro is £399.95.shiptrax-3d is £489.95

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
Hi Billko

These products are XML data feeds not receivers.
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
Hi Mike. As a newbie  and Naive on this hobby. Could you please enlighten me what  XML Is?.Also was Thinking of buying 1 of the trax boxes

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 09:44:43 AM
XML = Extensible Markup Language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML

Basically a set of "agreed" tags that enables "machine readable" information to be shared.

An example is the data used for the Basestation popup Aircraft Details window.

If you have an SBS-3 do you need another receiver?

Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 10:43:30 AM
 Hi Again Mike. Sorry to be a pain . Thanks to you Mike the aircraft side of the sbs-3 is very enjoyable to me. I run that side on my desktop which I want to keep,Living on the banks of a very busy port system I would like to run the AIS side on my laptop. I've read the Manuals from front to back an back to front. Please correct me if' am wrong I can only run one mode 1 at a time? not side bye side  at the same time? from the sbs-3. That was why i was looking at the receiver for AIS.

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Jamie on March 12, 2012, 11:17:44 AM
Well I don't know about the flight data but it appears to me that Airnav will be selling on data freely obtained from other AIS networks, there is no way that they have built up a large network of their own with "over 100,000" ships worldwide.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/ShipData/index.html

Food for thought.
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 11:58:51 AM
Hi Jamie. Whats this tworks software all about? Says AIS needs it to run?.
   
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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 10:43:30 AM
Please correct me if' am wrong I can only run one mode 1 at a time? not side bye side  at the same time? from the sbs-3. That was why i was looking at the receiver for AIS.                                                                                                       

My understanding (yet to be tested) is that you can use the SBS-3 SDRs for AIS data and feed this into ShipPlotter.  I may be wrong?
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: Jamie on March 12, 2012, 11:17:44 AM
Well I don't know about the flight data but it appears to me that Airnav will be selling on data freely obtained from other AIS networks,

Yes, that's how I read it but the AISHub has ambiguous Terms of Use:

TERMS OF USE
......
3) There are NO RESTRICTIONS how the members will use the data. Everybody is allowed to publish the data for free or to use it for commercial purposes.
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 02:04:05 PM
 Hi Anmer. Box of tricks £489+ tworks? + shipplotter expensive. I'll switch between Modes Mike.

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 03:01:47 PM
Hi Mike. The advert for the box states. It receives data (AIS,TCP/IP,AIS needs tworks) to allow to track ships

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 03:29:17 PM
Can you please post a link for the webpage?
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2012, 04:00:49 PM
"includes details on over 100000 ships worldwide."

It's over 100000 ship details from shipspotting.com

Don't think they are talking about the active ships on the AIS ShipTrax Network/AISHub.net

Just like how the AirNav Radarbox network has details from gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk / FAA data,etc...
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 04:07:29 PM
Avoiding too much thread drift, does anyone know about the XML Flight Data?
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2012, 04:16:48 PM
It's has been on the site for a long time (over 1 year).  that's all I know about it.

FAA doesn't want to deal with small users. It's better to let 3rd parties(AirNav) to sell that type of XML service.
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
Thanks Brian.
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 04:29:32 PM
 Hi mike heres the link http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/SHIPTRAX-3D_World_Wide_Ship_Tracking_System_For_PC_with_3D___Google_Earth.html 

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 04:34:25 PM
Thanks Billko.

I couldn't see any mention on "tworks"?
Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Hi Mike.  in the  advert it reads (AIS,TCP/IP, AIS needs tworks). Anyway Mike you are right I have AIS in the sbs-3 so why buy another receiver


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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
Aha:

".....(AIS, TCP/IP, AIS Nees tworks)"

I think that's just sloppy copy by W&S and should read:

"....(AIS, TCP/IP, AIS Networks)"

See the PDF linked from the W&S website.

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: shakysen on March 12, 2012, 05:04:37 PM
 Hi Mike You are right,  But very misleading .Anyway they have lost a sale!!!!!!!!!.

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Title: Re: AirNav XML Flight Data
Post by: Anmer on March 12, 2012, 05:11:53 PM
I'm not a fan of W&S advertising and nor is the Advertising Standards Authority which has found some of its adverts to be misleading!