A Malaysian passenger plane has crashed in Ukraine, according to aviation sources cited by the Russian news agency Interfax.
The airliner, which was travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with 295 people on board, is thought to have come down close to the border with Russia.
http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-plane-crashes-with-295-on-board
RIP
http://avherald.com/h?article=47770f9d&opt=0 as well
Heard this in the car driving to London.
I bet the tracking websites are being hammered tonight.
FR24 was almost unreachable for a while. AMazing that there are now 100s of "experts" now spouting how, where and when it disappeared.
Quote from: LX-LGN on July 17, 2014, 07:53:17 PM
FR24 was almost unreachable for a while. AMazing that there are now 100s of "experts" now spouting how, where and when it disappeared.
It was like that with MH370 and dozens of so-called researchers demanding access to flight data.
PP just locks down the data and sends it to the AAIB
Quote from: satcom on July 17, 2014, 08:19:35 PM
PP just locks down the data and sends it to the AAIB
Does the AAIB have jurisdiction for these flights?
They act as a point of contact Mike and send the data on to the relevant authorities.
Did the same with other incidents including MH370
Thanks satcom.
I'm sure FR24 helps the appropriate authorities too.
Did PP track MH17 up to the time it disappeared?
Yes we appear to have last contact logged to the second
Quote from: satcom on July 18, 2014, 08:22:27 AM
Yes we appear to have last contact logged to the second
Contact over Ukraine up to its disappearance?
Thats correct Mike
Quote from: satcom on July 18, 2014, 08:48:49 AM
Thats correct Mike
Thanks satcom.
I've been away for a long weekend and just got back.
Is there a particular reason why PP doesn't show any traffic over Ukraine at this time?
Quote from: Anmer on July 21, 2014, 05:14:39 PM
Is there a particular reason why PP doesn't show any traffic over Ukraine at this time?
Just in case my original question to satcom was overlooked.
Hi Mike
Sorry , saw the original but got distracted locating the site of the missile launcher....then forgot to get back to you
As you can see from http://www.coaa.co.uk/pp-user-charts.htm our coverage is to the South and East of the area at present.
Thanks satcom.
I was curious to see if there were many PP sharers in the Ukraine that could have been tracking MH17 up to the time of the incident. There appears to be some discussion elsewhere as to the accuracy of the "tracking" data published by various sources.
Does the PP data match that from FR24 which, as far as I can tell, appears to be the most accurate so far?
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489806795725348864.
Ours is spot on to a fraction of a second Mike , which from a personal point of view enabled me to pin down the location of the launcher.
We had a gap in coverage over western Ukraine but good data to the point of impact
Some of the trackers were of course using predicted positions , then rolled them back after the event.
All data has been sent to AAIB as a matter of routine and as you'll know they are now looking at the flight boxes having brought them back to the UK
Thanks satcom. By "spot on" do you mean the PP last position data is the same as that published by FR24?
No idea Mike....havn't seen their raw data
There was a link to the published FR24 data in the post I provided when I asked the question.
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489806795725348864
How do you know the PP data was "spot on"?
There was a link to the published FR24 data in the post I provided when I asked the question
Yes I saw that , but thats not in raw data format.
You'll just have to take my word for it Mike
Our data is locked down in raw format and passed on...we don't publish it , but when the eventual location of the missile launcher is revealed you'll know if FR24 data was correct or not.
OK, can you answer the following question?
Was the last received,"spot-on" PP data time stamped later than that published by FR24?
Simply put, was the aircraft sending positional data after the time that FR24 is showing? No need to provide the data itself, just a Yes or No will do?
And with what are you comparing the data received by PP to declare it as "spot on"?
From what I see, some receivers and decoding software introduce time stamp errors.
Re last received data... "No"
And re the receiving station....no time stamp error.
re the location....as later confirmed by independant investigation on the ground.
There were at least two if not three US DoD satellites looking at that area at the time one of which the US claim "saw" the launch....lets wait and see what they come up with as their images will be time stamped too.
Thanks satcom, that's very helpful.