Yesterday there was a question on the forum from XXak wanting to run something like VRS on Linux. I indicated VRS did run under Mono on Linux.
He came back that he couldn't run it on Centos 6 Server since it needed X.
However, the VRS forum indicates how you can work around this.
If you install VRS either on Windows or a Linux with desktop, you can copy the "Configuration.xml" file [stored in ~/.local/share/VirtualRadarServer] to the Linux server installation and then run VRS "headless" with the command
mono VirtualRadar.exe -nogui
You can open the webserver on another PC to see the output of VRS.
Just tested it on Ubuntu Server after copying the XML file from a Debian installation and can confirm it works. If you haven't got all the configuration correct, you may be able to work out the changes by editing the XML file.
Quote from: IanH on April 09, 2016, 04:04:31 PM
Yesterday there was a question on the forum from XXak wanting to run something like VRS on Linux. I indicated VRS did run under Mono on Linux.
He came back that he couldn't run it on Centos 6 Server since it needed X.
However, the VRS forum indicates how you can work around this.
If you install VRS either on Windows or a Linux with desktop, you can copy the "Configuration.xml" file [stored in ~/.local/share/VirtualRadarServer] to the Linux server installation and then run VRS "headless" with the command
mono VirtualRadar.exe -nogui
You can open the webserver on another PC to see the output of VRS.
Just tested it on Ubuntu Server after copying the XML file from a Debian installation and can confirm it works. If you haven't got all the configuration correct, you may be able to work out the changes by editing the XML file.
I'm really stuck with this. I'm setting it up on my PiAware. all ready to go and it tries to work, however one problem, it want's to work on port 8080, and it can't because PiAware is already there first of course. Can't run it to use web admin to change the port!
Either there is another way to define which port it runs on (which I can not find so far, and that's for a number of reasons) or I need to stop PiAware running it's web server for a short period.
That may be easier if I can only find out how!
Anyone happen to know either solution?
I thought this was possible.
Indeed - read the instructions on this page:
http://www.virtualradarserver.co.uk/Mono.aspx
Quote from: IanH on August 03, 2017, 12:12:24 PM
I thought this was possible.
Indeed - read the instructions on this page:
http://www.virtualradarserver.co.uk/Mono.aspx
Thanks so much for that Ian, you are the only one who knows it and is happy to say so!
It's a bit hidden for what is otherwise a major problem. I have for now given up, and might well return to it, but just not today!
I'm not that thrilled now that I realise the implied M$ involvement. It's something I don't knowingly do in my household anymore. I'll mull that bit over.
I've gone back to vanilla PiAware for the moment. It's functional, no more, no less. ::)
OK, so an update:
I now have PiAware running fine and virtual radar server running happily along side it on the Raspberry Pi 2. I've had it run for over a week without major issue.
Only problem I have noticed is that of the radio coverage splotch not always updating when there is an aircraft further out than the polar plot has already drawn. It's somewhat hit and miss as to whether it extends the range drawn on the map or not.
I just wish there was a stats/graphing specialist package which could maybe take a feed too. That would be a very handy thing indeed. Maybe some way to read/display the database on another machine.
I have used SBSPlotter (Windows app) to monitor the coverage range from a DVB-T and PiAware.
Quote from: Anmer on August 15, 2017, 10:19:45 AM
I have used SBSPlotter (Windows app) to monitor the coverage range from a DVB-T and PiAware.
Looks quite nice, but surely this is not available these days - or is it? If it is then can you or anyone else post a link for a reliable source?
I'd be game to try it under wine, as I am all Linux here.
Unless of course there is something for Linux, but that's not too likely I'd guess. ;)
Quote from: MK2wx on August 15, 2017, 11:04:23 AM
Looks quite nice, but surely this is not available these days - or is it?
https://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item313
Quote from: Anmer on August 15, 2017, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: MK2wx on August 15, 2017, 11:04:23 AM
Looks quite nice, but surely this is not available these days - or is it?
https://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item313
Thank you kindly, works for a bit, then the messages dwindle to 0, eventually it encounters a problem, and exits. It is not able to display what the error is, and asking it for more info crashes the wine server.
Tried 30003 and 30005 what is the best port to try again with?
Is the updated version still available somewhere?
While a bit small in the display, it's making an effort, albeit somewhat short lived! ;)
It can't save the plot as it is needing a folder which it can't find.
So, yes, something like this, but which works would be just the ticket! ;)
That is the latest version.
It should run OK using port 30003 data from PiAware.
Quote from: Anmer on August 15, 2017, 12:26:56 PM
That is the latest version.
It should run OK using port 30003 data from PiAware.
Oh ok, wasn't 100% certain about that.
Port was ok to a point, but the other problems appear to be a show stopper. Fine for the minute or so it ran, but that's about it.
Oh well.
Thanks for the help!
Is anything else using the same port?
Quote from: Anmer on August 15, 2017, 03:06:17 PM
Is anything else using the same port?
I don't think so. I've certainly not told anything else to use it. It is just PiAware and VRS installed, nothing else in all likelihood, I mean I can't vouch for PiAware and what it might get up to, but setting that thought aside. VRS is in on 30005 and 30105, and that is all.
Doesn't PiAware use a version of Mutability, I wonder how that get's it's feed. It's a pity if it is running that one could not use the normal web output from that. They have another "range splotch" from what I have seen.
If only the VRS one worked 100% then none of this would be any kind of issue whatsoever. Not sure what hope there might be of that one getting fixed.
Quote from: MK2wx on August 15, 2017, 03:46:05 PM
Doesn't PiAware use a version of Mutability, I wonder how that get's it's feed. It's a pity if it is running that one could not use the normal web output from that. They have another "range splotch" from what I have seen.
Have you had a look at the FlightAware discussion forum? Plenty of bespoke installs with some useful outputs.
From what I see, if you post what you're looking to achieve, you'll get lots of help from those with similar setups.
I'm running the standard PiAware SD card install here.
https://discussions.flightaware.com/ads-b-flight-tracking-f21/
Quote from: Anmer on August 15, 2017, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: MK2wx on August 15, 2017, 03:46:05 PM
Doesn't PiAware use a version of Mutability, I wonder how that get's it's feed. It's a pity if it is running that one could not use the normal web output from that. They have another "range splotch" from what I have seen.
Have you had a look at the FlightAware discussion forum? Plenty of bespoke installs with some useful outputs.
From what I see, if you post what you're looking to achieve, you'll get lots of help from those with similar setups.
I'm running the standard PiAware SD card install here.
https://discussions.flightaware.com/ads-b-flight-tracking-f21/
Yes, once I feel a bit more confident with it all I might, but that looks like the sort of thing I would royally mess knowing me! ;D
Actually Mutability has not seen a new release in some time either from what I have read. Some have said it's abandoned, but I'm not sure if that's right either. However if it's not been updated, might one see it as finished, as in it is now complete and fully working? :-\
sbsplotter is running fine on my Mint Linux VM.
Just copied across the zip file, extracted it, double clicked on the exe file and Wine started it.
Piaware/dump1090 generates BaseStation output on port 30003.
So pointed it the IP address of a Pi running Piaware, port 30003. Entered Lat and Long. Pressed Start.
It needs a folder called "Outlines" so that it can save the "OUT" files it generates, either at time intervals or when you tell it to.
My notes for this are:
Radar plots are stored in five layers for certain flightlevel bands
Layer
25 GND to FL99
26 FL100 to FL199
27 FL200 to FL299
28 at or above FL300
29 all levels
If you run BaseStation and copy the OUT file into its Outlines folder, the range for each band of flightlevels will be shown, assuming that the layers have been set up (read the BS manual).
OK, I do't have or run basestation, so is this why I was having issues perhaps?
Thanks for your helpful post!
Quote from: MK2wx on August 15, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
OK, I do't have or run basestation, so is this why I was having issues perhaps?
I doubt it. Ian only mentioned BaseStation in relation to displaying the SBSPlotter range outlines. Ignore it for now.
Quote from: Anmer on August 15, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: MK2wx on August 15, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
OK, I do't have or run basestation, so is this why I was having issues perhaps?
I doubt it. Ian only mentioned BaseStation in relation to displaying the SBSPlotter range outlines. Ignore it for now.
OK, thanks for that, it lightens the worry load, and that's a good thing, means I can now put all of my energy into breaking the gliders marker now! ;)
Anmer is correct - no need for BaseStation - just it gives a more detailed view of range vs altitude from the OUT file.
sbsplotter running for almost 3 hours now without problem.
And Piaware does not currently have any live range options. There were two excellent choices but the code was written for Google Maps. When Google changed the rules about using Google Maps, Piaware had to change to an alternative: Open Street Maps. The live range options need to be rewritten for that. :'(
One thought about VRS not showing max range - I wonder if it discards data at the limit because of uncertainty. Most plotting software allows a time to be set when loss of data results in date no longer being plotted. Set it too high and you get plots long after the receiver has given up.
A big thanks for that, it used to plot stuff right out there, but what you said rang a bell!
A week or two back I changed out RG59/U for RG6. I felt it lost something but could not exactly put my finger on it. Now I think it may be that the longer distances is what went missing. I'll put the RG59/U back and we'll see.
A mate was telling me how much less lossy the RG6 was going to be, but it may be that I got a really good RG59/U and a really lackluster RG6. We shall see what happens with the old one back in charge! :)
Yes a really good range plotter would be a very useful thing, especially given what it could tell me about two cables head to head. Darned useful tools when they work! ;)
I've slightly improved the antenna too in those weeks, so what happens next might be rather good. It certainly has that potential. ;)