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Mode-S Receivers => Kinetic's SBS-3 => Topic started by: mhm on April 22, 2012, 10:49:49 PM

Title: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: mhm on April 22, 2012, 10:49:49 PM
2012-04-21
AIS NMEA decoding built into SBS-3 firmware
Kinetic is delighted to announce the release of the latest firmware on Monday 23rd April 2012 for the SBS-3 which features AIS NMEA decoding directly within the SBS-3 without any need for an additional PC.

Simply open a connection to the SBS-3 and receive a stream of VHF AIS data, as well as Mode-S data, without the requirment to waste money on additional receivers and decoders. Our Beta team have successfully tested the firmware which has been proven to work with PlanePlotter, ShipPlotter and CombiPlotter from COAA

With internal ACARS decoding and UAT decoding scheduled for development, we look forward to a busy development and delivery timetable, and as standard with Kinetic - firmware updates are FREE of charge.Chris Taylor
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Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 23, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
The new firmware is now available from Kinetic's website,  It's only relevant to AIS output.

http://www.kinetic.co.uk/newsite/basestationdownloads.php#2

The Kinetic website provides two files:

The firmware
L_0109_0000_0115_R_SBS3.kff

The firmware uploader
progUSBLattice.exe
If you plan to update the firmware please make sure you follow the instructions carefully:

1. Close Basestation
2. Remove all antenna connections from the SBS-3
3. Connect via USB not Ethernet.
4. Place the two files in the same folder
5. Right click on the firmware file and select "Open With"  and then navigate to the firmware uploader.

The firmware update will commence in a DOS/Command window and will take about 8 minutes to complete.  During this time make sure there is continual power for the PC, either mains or via a fully charged battery.

When the update is complete the DOS/Commands window will close.  Reconnect the antennae, launch Basestation and check About Basestation to check that it's showing the latest firmware.

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Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: MIXISM on April 23, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
So I take it that AIS is not going to over lay into the basestation software. ?
Later    :'(
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 23, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
If you're asking if AIS plots will appear on the Basestation map, it doesn't look like it - yet?
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: BigRed on April 23, 2012, 10:37:05 PM
Mike and Co,

So this update isnt really relevent for the average BS / PP user?

Bit confussed here  8)

CAM
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 07:38:17 AM
The firmware appears to only be of use for those wishing to plot ships with AIS.
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 07:52:48 AM
Hi All .The best of both worlds.Still enjoying this side of the box.
AIS on the lappy. Looking forward to the ACARS&UAT side to come yummy yummy. As Tom would say read the manuals!!!!!. Which is what I intend to do. Could anyone recommend a good reading list for above modes.


                                                                                         Regards Billko

                                                                           
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 08:29:56 AM
You can receive ACARS messages today.  You just need something to decode them, such as PlanePotter.

UAT may not be too much use for those of us in Europe.

"Specific to US airspace – and not approved elsewhere – is the UAT datalink transmitter as an alternative to the Mode S transponder. UAT transmitters may only be used on GA aircraft flying at lower altitudes in the USA."

http://www.trig-avionics.com/adsb.html
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 08:39:59 AM
 Good Morning Anmer .Many thanks will have a look at your suggestion about pp.

                                                                                  Billko
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: MIXISM on April 25, 2012, 01:49:08 PM
Sorry Mike I think the link you posted is more  fiction then fact.

" If you are flying outside the USA, there is no choice – the only approved solution is Mode S. That is also true for large aircraft and high altitude aircraft in the USA – you must use Mode S. If however you are flying a GA aircraft in the US, you may instead elect to use a UAT solution.

A UAT solution will almost certainly be more expensive than a Mode S based solution, because the Mode S ADS-B solution is built into many existing ATC transponders, whereas the UAT solution is a separate datalink radio. "

Mode A&C are still a standard in many parts of the world. The UAT well be alot cheaper then a mode S/ADS-B transponder.
Keep going Kinetic!

Later
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 25, 2012, 02:07:30 PM
The original question was about UAT and the link was to an article about ADS-B and the next generation avionics.

What part of the article is "fiction"?

The link itself was "fact".
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Roadrunner on April 25, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 23, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
The Kinetic website provides two files:

The firmware
L_0108_0000_0114_R_SBS3.kff

The firmware uploader
progUSBLattice.exe

Anmer,

For in formation as I had not seen this post before I upgraded my SBS3s firmware. I downloaded both the above files to the same place as when I did the previous upgrade but when I selected L_0108_0000_0114_R_SBS3.kff OPEN WITH it found the original file used last time but it still did the upgrade without problems.

Regards

Mike

Just f
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 25, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
Thanks Mike.

I think it's the same uploader file but was renamed last time.

It might be easier if Kinetic stuck to a file naming convention and used the same names for the same files.

And issue upgrade instructions each time.
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Tracker on April 25, 2012, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 25, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
Thanks Mike.

I think it's the same uploader file but was renamed last time.

It might be easier if Kinetic stuck to a file naming convention and used the same names for the same files.

And issue upgrade instructions each time.

Why would they want to make things easier for the customer?
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 25, 2012, 07:07:37 PM
Quote from: Tracker on April 25, 2012, 06:19:22 PM
Why would they want to make things easier for the customer?

Because we have a choice.  ;)
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Roadrunner on April 26, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
I also think the name of the older file SBS3FirmwareUploader.exe is much easier to associate with the job it does than the ProgUsbLattice.exe supplied this time.

Mike
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 26, 2012, 07:40:01 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner on April 26, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
I also think the name of the older file SBS3FirmwareUploader.exe is much easier to associate with the job it does than the ProgUsbLattice.exe supplied this time.

So do I.  But it's Kinetic that we have to convince.
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Chris-G0WTZ on April 26, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Updating Software and firmware

To update Basestation to the latest version down load the latest exe file from the support area of our website! Extract (Unzip) the file and note where it is.

On your desktop go to the Basestation shortcut and right click on it. Select the option to open in containing folder

That opens your Basestation folder

Then go to  the unzipped Basestation file right click on it and select copy then go to your open basestation folder and paste the new file in it.

You will then run the new version when you click on the short cut.

To Update the firmware down load the latest firmware for your device and the relevant firmware loader. Copy them both into the same folder and right click on the KFF file. Select open with and point it to the Firmware loader. A dos box will pop up and you will get rows of dots and characters.
When finished the box will close

The SBS-3 can take up to 5 minutes and the SBS-1 series 2 or 3 minutes.

The latest firmware for the SBS-3 gives decoded AIS on an NMEA data stream which at this time is only available when connected by Ethernet

Please read the release notes to set up the SBS-3 for this function

When running the SBS-3 on ethernet with AIS ADSB and radios running you need a good power supply. All our tests are conducted with an Ipad 10w Power supply which works fine
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: kdt1 on April 27, 2012, 04:06:48 AM
"SBS-1 series 2 or 3 minutes"

Isn't this Update just for the SBS3, Thanks
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: Anmer on April 27, 2012, 07:44:37 AM
Quote from: kdt1 on April 27, 2012, 04:06:48 AM
Isn't this Update just for the SBS3, Thanks

The procedure is the same, the files are different.
Title: Re: SBS-3 Firmware Update
Post by: kdt1 on April 27, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
Got it, Thanks