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Mode-S Software => Common Interest => Topic started by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 01:42:28 PM

Title: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
Tarbat is asking for advice on an alternative ModeS receiver to his RadarBox.

It seems the lack of an Ethernet port has finally become an issue.

"If I can find software that gives me as good or better user interface as the products I currently use, I would seriously consider a network connected ModeS receiver.  I've stopped using Radarbox at the moment because of it's lack of network connection."

I could suggest a couple of options, such as the SBS-1/3 models that have an Ethernet port or maybe the Beast or microADSB that have this as an optional upgrade?  But as I'm banned from posting on Radarspotters maybe someone else can help him?

http://www.radarspotters.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6703.msg47652#msg47652
Title: Re: Can Anone Help?
Post by: Sun Worshipper on April 24, 2012, 02:25:42 PM
Quote"I've stopped using Radarbox at the moment because of it's lack of network connection."

I've known Air Nav to stone you for lesser comments.  One of Brandao's tame users defecting, is this the beginning of the end?

Title: Re: Can Anone Help?
Post by: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
 Will we get him on here? Anmer
Title: Re: Can Anone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 03:14:58 PM
Quote from: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
Will we get him on here? Anmer

No idea.  Membership isn't obligatory.
Title: Re: Can Anone Help?
Post by: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
I look forward to meeting him.Hes infamous more  red cards then joey Barton
Title: Re: Can Anone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
I look forward to meeting him.Hes infamous more  red cards then joey Barton

Your wish may be about to be realised  :)
Title: Re: Can Anone Help?
Post by: tarbat on April 24, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 01:42:28 PMTarbat is asking for advice on an alternative ModeS receiver to his RadarBox.

To clarify, I'm looking for advice on alternative software.  Specifically, any details about:
        -ADSBScope
        -EuroScope
        -Globe-S Airfield Edition
        -srv30003
        -VirtualRadar

If I can find software that gives me as good or better user interface as the products I currently use, I would seriously consider a network connected ModeS receiver.  I've stopped using Radarbox at the moment for no other reason that it's lack of network connection.  Running ShipTrax on a network connection has made an office move possible, but at the expense of using the Radarbox.

Quote from: shakysen on April 24, 2012, 03:22:17 PMI look forward to meeting him.

Greetings!
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 03:42:33 PM
Surely, if you're looking for Ethernet connectivity, you need a new receiver?

Unless I'm mistaken, new software alone won't provide the connectivity you seek?

Welcome Chris  :)
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: tarbat on April 24, 2012, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 03:42:33 PMSurely, if you're looking for Ethernet connectivity, you need a new receiver?

Correct.  But I'm not looking for advice on receivers, I know what is on the market.  Their differentiating factors are easily understood (sensitivity, output streams, range, etc).

The area I'm struggling to research is the software solutions that can read a ModeS network stream.  I know about Planeplotter and Basestation, but now see mention of other software solutions such as ADSBScope, EuroScope, Globe-S, etc. and need to understand what these software solutions can do.

As you know, I'm a great fan of the functionality and user interface of Radarbox and ShipTrax (sorry, mustn't mention ships!!), so if I can find software that can offer a similar "user experience", then I will consider using a ModeS receiver with ethernet interface.  I thought that maybe these other software solutions may offer that similar "user experience".
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 04:25:41 PM
There are links here to some of the software you mention.

http://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php/page,20.html

Maybe Google the others, some of which are available when you purchase an appropriate Mode-S receiver.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: tarbat on April 24, 2012, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 04:25:41 PMMaybe Google the others, some of which are available when you purchase an appropriate Mode-S receiver.

Thanks.  Yes, I've aleady Google'd, but these five software solutions seem to elude my every effort to find screenshots and/or functional descriptions.  I had hoped that maybe someone had used these, and could offer a view on the pros/cons of each software solution.  I don't want to risk buying an ethernet capable receiver until I'm sure what other software it can be used with other than Basestation or Planeplotter, and what that software can do.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
I've used Globe-S and it's pretty impressive.  There's a 10 minute demo version so you can get a feel for it.

adsbScope is freeware and can be downloaded but I don't know if it will work with your current receiver?

So too is EuroScope and there's even a Wiki for it.

I think Google is your fried.  You just need to make the effort.  ;)
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Triple7 on April 24, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
I think Google is your fried.

Would you like fish with that?  ;D ;D ;D

Sorry Mike, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: tarbat on April 24, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 04:50:18 PMI've used Globe-S and it's pretty impressive.  There's a 10 minute demo version so you can get a feel for it.

adsbScope is freeware and can be downloaded but I don't know if it will work with your current receiver?

So too is EuroScope and there's even a Wiki for it.

I think Google is your fried.  You just need to make the effort.  ;)

Thanks Mike.  I have tried to make the effort!!

I'm just looking for something that displays a map, list of aircraft, aircraft details and aircraft photos.  Network is unimportant to me.  If it's possible to combine aircraft (ADS/B) and ships (AIS NMEA) onto the same map/list/details/photos, then that would be perfect.  Does anything do that?
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: tarbat on April 24, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I'm just looking for something that displays a map, list of aircraft, aircraft details and aircraft photos.  Network is unimportant to me.  If it's possible to combine aircraft (ADS/B) and ships (AIS NMEA) onto the same map/list/details/photos, then that would be perfect.  Does anything do that?

You said you wanted something with networking capabilities. 

"I've stopped using Radarbox at the moment because of it's lack of network connection"

Now you're saying "Network is unimportant to me".

Make up your mind.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: tarbat on April 24, 2012, 05:51:55 PM
Quote from: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 05:43:08 PMYou said you wanted something with networking capabilities. 

"I've stopped using Radarbox at the moment because of it's lack of network connection"

Now you're saying "Network is unimportant to me".

Make up your mind.

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  "Network", as in aircraft being shared across a network by other users, is unimportant to me.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 24, 2012, 06:41:00 PM
OK, understand.

Data sharing is unimportant.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Chris-G0WTZ on April 24, 2012, 09:42:48 PM
Here are my thoughts (Chris Taylor not Kinetic)




    -ADSBScope     I can not remember which receiver I got it with  it worked OK and is for the guys that make hardware but don't write software http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/projekte/adsb/adsb_en.html  I prefered Plane Plotter
       

-EuroScope
     http://www.euroscope.hu/main.php  Never suceeded in getting it running
     
     
  -Globe-S Airfield Edition Takes a while to load and looks good not my cup of tea but many seemed to like it but I think it was because it was different. I believe it was designed for airfield use

     
  -srv30003 similar to Virtual Radar server basically plots port 30003 data to googlemaps


   -VirtualRadar Don't know where have you seen it? or do you mean Virtual Radar server?
Virtual radar server talks to basestation SQB,Port 30003,Operator Flags & sillouettes and allows you to view your data on an Ipad,Iphone or many of the Droids. Personally I like Vurtualradarserver and use it a lot

Hope that is of some help
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: tarbat on April 25, 2012, 08:10:11 AM
Thanks Chris, very useful.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: IanH on April 27, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
There is also the Globe-S mini edition which is free. I've tried it but not completely successful in getting it working.

ADSBscope only works with specific hardware which gives the required data output. The docs indicate: GNS5890, the Beast, miniadsb, adsbPIC. Certainly doesn't see the output of a PGR.

Didn't know about Euroscope so thanks for the info.

Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: IanH on April 27, 2012, 05:35:45 PM
Having just spent much of the afternoon with Euroscope, this is going in the bin.

I have to agree with Tarbat's observation two years ago on the Airnav forum about just how do you get this working? Pleased to have found that when I too failed!

Eventually got the area I'm interested in showing on screen but the proxy server doesn't show co-ordinates in its display so I'm guessing no plotting info would be available anyway. Reading the various forum messages, it may be that the successes are using the same hardware as required for ADSBscope. Also it seem you have to register for VATSIM membership in order to do the required "connect to VATSIM" - couldn't be bothered.

If anyone ever gets this working with an SBS-1 or Radarbox, a write up would be helpful.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 27, 2012, 06:01:48 PM
I for one shan't be attempting to use it.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: IanH on April 28, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
The free Globe-S mini doesn't seem to work with the SBS-1 despite having a button for it. Hence my comments about trying it previously evidently referred to my trials with a PGR  :-[

Unless anyone knows different.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: birdie on April 04, 2013, 06:42:50 PM
I just discover I am banned in Radarspotters.eu for no apparent reason.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: Anmer on April 04, 2013, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: birdie on April 04, 2013, 06:42:50 PM
I just discover I am banned in Radarspotters.eu for no apparent reason.

Did you post there and break any rules?
Title: Re: Can Anyone Help?
Post by: birdie on April 05, 2013, 05:35:05 AM
Quote from: Anmer on April 04, 2013, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: birdie on April 04, 2013, 06:42:50 PM
I just discover I am banned in Radarspotters.eu for no apparent reason.

Did you post there and break any rules?

I seldom post there. Once I use " God-damn " and was told off.