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[hispeedbypass]

We need to be careful not to lose sight of the ball. this particular thread appears to be where most members have vented their spleen. and in reality unless Kinetic are bothered enough to read our forum and value our observations and gripes very little progress will be made. We may not have run out of steam on this subject and I'm sure once and if the puck gets released there will be plenty of feedback for us to chew over.
in the meantime 2014 looms on the horizon - maybe we are on the cusp of exciting things

[mhm]

Another competition, I could win one of the others? 

[viking9]

We need to be careful not to lose sight of the ball. this particular thread appears to be where most members have vented their spleen. and in reality unless Kinetic are bothered enough to read our forum and value our observations and gripes very little progress will be made. We may not have run out of steam on this subject and I'm sure once and if the puck gets released there will be plenty of feedback for us to chew over.
in the meantime 2014 looms on the horizon - maybe we are on the cusp of exciting things

I totally agree.

I used to enjoy this site which afforded sensible discussion and help on the subject of radarspotting but now seems to consist of little more than a few whingers who spend their time complaining about AirNav and Kinetic. I sold my RadarBox years ago and moved on. Nothing that is said here or on any other forum will bother Airnav, so forget them

As for Kinetic, well, we had similar problems with SBS-3, but it was worth waiting for. I imagine they either have some production problems or some last minute bugs to iron out and Chris also has the rest of his business to keep running. I have always found him to be a good guy when it comes to support, so lets cut him some slack.

The biggest whinger is someone who has a free FR24 kit and is not likely to be in the market for anything else so I can't imagine anyone is going to take notice of his childish rants. Personally, if I see another of his puerile posts I shall pack in visiting this site.

Tom

[Anmer]

I used to enjoy this site which afforded sensible discussion and help on the subject of radarspotting but now seems to consist of little more than a few whingers who spend their time complaining about AirNav and Kinetic.

Have you noticed that, apart from logos, databases updates and Brian's cross posting, all the forums have fewer posts these days?  Flightradar24 has commoditised the hobby.

I was told I could buy a Puck as a competition prize so I have a personal interest in this topic but have tried to post an objective view.

But I have no problem with anyone "whinging" about AirNav, Kinetic or anyone else when it's justified.  The 14 month delay in the availability of the Puck and AirNav making unsubstantiated claims are OK by me.

Those who don't want to read such posts can either ignore them or, as Tom suggests, can stop visiting the forum.

[viking9]

Have you noticed that, apart from logos, databases updates and Brian's cross posting, all the forums have fewer posts these days?  Flightradar24 has commoditised the hobby.

FR24 has certainly not commoditised the hobby, Mike. PlanePlotter Yahoo forum is increasing members and PP is increasing groundstations every day.  FR24 is still lacking decent coverage for non-positionals and I personally doubt that they will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has now. More and more people are buying dongles now and more stations are feeding Flightaware from Plane Plotter - a jump from 0 to 145 stations in less than a month. For those stations Flightaware gives a free Enterprise Subscription worth $90 a month. I personally do not believe that FR24 will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has.

I was told I could buy a Puck as a competition prize so I have a personal interest in this topic but have tried to post an objective view.

Mike, I empathise with you regarding the Puck for a prize, but I think you should have waited until they were actually on sale.

But I have no problem with anyone "whinging" about AirNav, Kinetic or anyone else when it's justified.  The 14 month delay in the availability of the Puck and AirNav making unsubstantiated claims are OK by me. Those who don't want to read such posts can either ignore them or, as Tom suggests, can stop visiting the forum.

Mike, you and I go back a way and I have always held you in high esteem. You and Hamish did wonders in setting up Radarspotters and this site and your technical assistance has been second to none. However, I do think that you are now letting your personal feelings cloud your judgement. I think that the reason this site is now getting so little activity is because people see very little to interest them and are probably put off by the incessant whingeing about the same subjects.

I live in a little paradise here and most of my days are spent in sublime happiness so I can do without having my euphoria spoiled. I shall continue to visit the forum but I shall steer well clear of anything concerning AirNav or the Puck.

[Anmer]

I personally do not believe that FR24 will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has.

I think you'll find that FR24 has three times the number of PP sharers.

Mike, I empathise with you regarding the Puck for a prize, but I think you should have waited until they were actually on sale.

I was told they would be on sale by the time the competition ended.

[viking9]

I think you'll find that FR24 has three times the number of PP sharers.

Well their mlatted aircraft numbers don't support that statement - at least not in the UK.

[Anmer]

Well their mlatted aircraft numbers don't support that statement - at least not in the UK.

I was responding to your comment:

I personally do not believe that FR24 will ever get anywhere near the number of feeders that PP has.

[viking9]

OK Mike, so where is the evidence of how many feeders they have?

[Anmer]

OK Mike, so where is the evidence of how many feeders they have?

Please see:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3836-Flightradar24-app-on-iOS-(iPhone-iPad-and-iPod)?p=39555&viewfull=1#post39555

I have no reason to question that claim.

[vortex003]

a few whingers who spend their time complaining about AirNav and Kinetic.

And while you are entitled to your opinion,if a firm is looking for £250 of my money for a product i think i have a right to know if and when i am likely to receive it - (and that it works)

Some of the Airnav rants were a bit tedious though i agree.

[viking9]

Please see:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3836-Flightradar24-app-on-iOS-(iPhone-iPad-and-iPod)?p=39555&viewfull=1#post39555

I have no reason to question that claim.

Hardly evidence Mike. As for over 100 in the UK I think PP went past that a long time ago. Perhaps John Locker will advise us of the true figure. I'm sure he can provide the evidence too.

I see there is an Administrator with the handle 'Mike' on the FR24 forum - not you is it?

[Sun Worshipper]

Crikey Tom, who's pi**ed on your porridge today?

[north borneo radar]

Please see:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3836-Flightradar24-app-on-iOS-(iPhone-iPad-and-iPod)?p=39555&viewfull=1#post39555

I have no reason to question that claim.

Hardly evidence Mike. As for over 100 in the UK I think PP went past that a long time ago. Perhaps John Locker will advise us of the true figure. I'm sure he can provide the evidence too.

I see there is an Administrator with the handle 'Mike' on the FR24 forum - not you is it?

Just someone neutral here stating a fact and I am sure others can support me on this too. The Mike on FR24 forum is not Anmer/Mike on this forum. That Mike actually works for FR24 in Sweden.

[Anmer]

Hardly evidence Mike.

I see there is an Administrator with the handle 'Mike' on the FR24 forum - not you is it?

No it's not me.

As I said, I have no reason to question that number.

I'm not playing "mine's bigger than yours", just responding to your comments.

Mike's quote was "100+ in central UK".  I suspect the number of active UK feeders is far greater than that as we have nearly as many sharing via SBS1 Client.