New AirNav RadarBox 5.00 Beta Software

[Anmer]

As my old friend Hamish has suggested, let's keep this On Topic.

I could post a long message of historical posts but it won't improve the quality of the RadarBox beta.

Thread Topic:

AirNav RadarBox Beta 5.00 (and later iterations).

[tarbat]

You know only too well.

Are you serious pal?

So, yet again, obscure posts suggesting I already know the answer to my own question.  It was a genuine question - what have I done now to deserve this?  And as for "playing both sides of the fence", I'm not sure what that refers to - perhaps you could clarify for me.

[Anmer]

Unless this is a deliberate attempt to deflect attention away from the thread topic, may I suggest you continue the discussion by PM?

[tarbat]

Unless this is a deliberate attempt to deflect attention away from the thread topic, may I suggest you continue the discussion by PM?

Why should I?  I wasn't the one that started this latest tarbat bashing session.  It's so pathetic that some people hold a grudge for so many years.  I assumed that this latest tarbat bashing session had been triggered by something, and simply asked what that was.

[Anmer]

Clearly there are some who don't see you in the same light as others.

As I posted earlier, I've been the victim of your posts elsewhere without being able to respond. At least you've were able to respond here but now I suggest you continue via PMs.

[kdt1]

"It's so pathetic that some people hold a grudge for so many years."

Well I think it's pathetic your still so oblivious after all these years.

Maybe he just don't get it Anmer, enough said.....................

[Anmer]

Just a reminder that the topic is RadarBox 5.00 beta.

After 4 years development and extensive testing, the beta has more new bugs than it fixes and only one new feature.

Well worth the wait?

[Bethsalem]

The only thing that benefits from RadarBox 5.00 beta is RadarBox24.

So no, definitely not in the slightest worth a four year wait.

[mhm]

Will be nice to see what Tarbat has to say on this subject.

I made a temporary return to the Radarbox world to carry out the beta testing - it's what I enjoy doing.  I think the v5 release is a good mix of bug-fixes and improvements.  We tested it thoroughly, but no doubt some bugs will emerge as more users participate in the public beta.

Tarbat

Who in Airnav writes the programme.

Would have been nice if Tarbat had given this info.

[Anmer]

Would have been nice if Tarbat had given this info.

Brandao and a guy in the Ukraine.

[Sun Worshipper]

The only thing that benefits from RadarBox 5.00 beta is RadarBox24.

So no, definitely not in the slightest worth a four year wait.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Air Nav don't give a stuff about those poor saps who spent hundreds of pounds on hardware.  I've always thought it but the 'no share data/no route info or photos' addition to v5 has finally convinced me.

[Anmer]

Interesting exchange on the AirNav forum about the latest beta release.

I too have not downloaded this release for similar reasons and because it seems to have introduced more bugs than it has fixed.  So much for beta testers!  And nearly 4 years of waiting.  I dread to think what RadarBox2 will be like?

"I haven't downloaded the Beta for  practical reasons  - not having a clear grasp of computing it seems a sensible option to stay away from betas and await finished products.

After ploughing through the pages of semi-technical exchanges and the volumes of help and advice being requested and given,  it does seem to me that the original RadarBox concept of a simple "plug it in and away you go" box has gone right out of the window.

I was thinking of giving a box to a young relative this Christmas however this thing has become too complex for the "everyman" user. The pursuit of a simple hobby now seems to require a substantial knowledge of - and perhaps more importantly an interest in - the computing field.  It may not have been intended that way but the past few years have been anything but straightforward and I doubt things will change in the next few.

Whilst many are happy to embrace this concept, there are many others who do not wish to spend their time tinkering and adjusting and generally messing about. It all reminds me of ham radio. There was great satisfaction to be gained from building, tweaking and testing. But times have moved on. Pick up your mobile, switch it on and away you go.

No more cats whiskers and moving of TV aerials -  DIY and complexity are no longer in vogue and the public want things that work out of the box. It's black box technology and it's the name of game.

Another thread poses the question "Why Radarbox" and when the alternative is simply watching an internet site, that is a very relevant question for many.

My message (if there is a message) is that if you want to sell Radar boxes in any quantity, you will need to go back to the basic "armchair" principle. It must work straight out of the box and it must stay that way.

If on the other hand you want an enthusiast-only minority product, the unit price will have to reflect that which could have serious implications for the future."

AirNav's response:

"Having to handle all the support queries I can assure you that if you have basic understanding of computers you are able to get RadarBox running and enjoy it without having to go through many steps and headaches.

The majority of our users do this and actually never venture onto the forum and are happy with the basic default settings. However and this the big however once you step out of the basic world and want to add your own pictures/configure the database to your liking/setup picture uploading etc.. you will obviously need to have some background in computers to do this.

The new beta is is no more complicated than the older software, just the new functions and bugs are being discussed techincally which may make it seem daunting.

At the end of the day RadarBox can be used as plug and play device but it also has a entensive feature list to enjoy once you want to configure it to your exact liking."

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7940.msg98291#msg98291

[Sun Worshipper]

However and this the big however once you step out of the basic world and want to add your own pictures/configure the database to your liking/setup picture uploading etc.. you will obviously need to have some background in computers to do this.

One loyal update contributor, now very upset because V5 has locked him out of his own flights database which he has painstakingly assembled over the years, with no way back, complains to Air Nav only to get a response along the lines of "v5 is well documented and there should have been no surprises.  An absolute disgrace.

At the end of the day RadarBox can be used as plug and play device

But if you don't subscribe to either real time or delayed network you aint gonna see that much on your screen.  You might as well buy a decent tablet, download FR24 and see loads  of flights and still get change from the price of a Radarbox.  The tablet will be much more useful for other things too.

Bottom line is that no-one in their right minds is going to buy a Radarbox ever again.

[birdie]

Bottom line is that no-one in their right minds is going to buy a Radarbox ever again.

My RadarBox is for sale . Any takers ?

NOT Indonesian Ruppiah 1 + P & P paid.   


On 2nd thought, I better leave my Radarbox in my cats' litter box and let them pee on it.

[Sun Worshipper]

I'm looking for someone who's clearly not of their right mind to buy mine.  Maybe I should change the ad to say I'm selling the aerial and if you buy I'll throw in a free Radarbox.