AirNav Comstation Teardown

[Anmer]

Alan McKnight from radarbox

aka Runway31, the volunteer database editor?

I didn't realise he was on AirNav's payroll.

Wait until Andre emails you. 

[Anmer]

Alan McKnight from radarbox

On the AirNav payroll?  Or the only one who thinks RadarBox24 is "getting better"? 

No bias there.

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[GregoryGHarding]

Alan McKnight from radarbox

On the AirNav payroll?  Or the only one who thinks RadarBox24 is "getting better"? 

No bias there.

haha tbh maybe not so bias, if he was he woulda rated it 5* lol

[Anmer]

Another unhappy Comstation host:

did anyone get the new ComStation ? if so can anyone tell me how I can see the RAW DATA from the ComStation Box directly to my computer without going on the web ?? I like the box but its useless if we cant see the data directly,, the radar box im using alredy feeds data to the web and we can view the data directly without going on the web -- if anyone knows a way around it please let us all know or I will have to trash the ComStation box cause its useless -- slingshot01@yahoo.com -- twitter @nycbikerider

He posted a similar message on The Plagiarist's forum but no one bothered to reply.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=8459.msg116084#msg116084

[IanH]

I find it strange that there has been no publicity from AirNav about this product.

Is it going to vanish as quickly as the overpriced AirNav dongle?

Or is it simply in a testing phase to get user reaction before they ramp up production.

Part exchange against a Radarbox?

[Anmer]

I find it strange that there has been no publicity from AirNav about this product.

I agree Ian.

And maybe AirNav doesn't want to upset its RadarBox customers who paid a lot for their receivers and network subscriptions?

Brandao is trying to grab a share of the lucrative app market but looking at his RadarBox24 install stats, he's way behind FR24 and Plane Finder with no sign of catching up.  As Birdie keeps reminding us. 

[birdie]

I find it strange that there has been no publicity from AirNav about this product.

I agree Ian.

And maybe AirNav doesn't want to upset its RadarBox customers who paid a lot for their receivers and network subscriptions?

Brandao is trying to grab a share of the lucrative app market but looking at his RadarBox24 install stats, he's way behind FR24 and Plane Finder with no sign of catching up.  As Birdie keeps reminding us. 

Did I heard " Birdie " ?

Anmer, Thanks for waking me up from my sleep ...

[birdie]

They seem to be all about security. This is the first company I've encountered  that asks you to host equipment for them using your resources and doesn't even let you access the raw feed. I was directed to radarbox24.com after emailing them telling them I cannot access data via regular ports or serial.

In the 8 years I've had dealings with AirNav Systems (aka Andre Brandao), "paranoid" is the word that first springs to mind.

If Brandao had spent more time on understanding business and what makes for success instead of telling everyone that he's the biggest and best, claims that were easily shot down, he wouldn't have been surpassed by the likes of Kinetic, Flightradar24 and FlightAware.

Hosts invest time, electricity, bandwidth and cash (erecting the obligatory external antenna) and justifiably expect something in return.  AirNav always wants everything for nothing and even helps itself to RadarBox owners bandwidth without their expressed permission.

One to avoid.

Only ONE word to describe -

THIEF !

[birdie]

And he knows this can't be achieved by the dwindling population of disgruntled RadarBox receivers.  So he needs to distribute a cheap alternative.

In my opinion, Brandao's misunderstood the motivation of hosts and the need to supply a robust device that can deliver quality data with minimum support.

Please count Birdie as one of them !

My RadarBox is still inside my Cats' litter bin, waiting for them to Pooh & Pee on - but my cats got class and have so far refused to do so. LOL.

[Anmer]

Looks like I kicked off Birdie's dawn chorus.

Silly me.

[Anmer]

Poor old Runway 31, believes everything AirNav tells him:

In common with the receivers provided by other trackers the comstation is intended solely to feed data to the host tracker i.e Radarbox24. As such and in common with the other trackers receivers the data is not intended for interception.

Perhaps Runway 31 should do some research before perpetuating Brandao's falsehoods?

I know from personal experience that both FR24 and FlightAware's free receivers allow their hosts to view local data on applications such as RadarView, Dump1090, Virtual Radar Server, PlanePlotter and many others.  It's ComStation that's the odd one out.

And FlightAware displays all local MLAT plots too.

Shame on you Runway 31.  Telling porkies to justify another Brandao cock up.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg116115#msg116115

[IanH]

Just read the AirNav registration blurb:

You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law.

Tut, tut Runway31 

[mt007]

Hi,
this box have ATC Audio too.
Regards.

[Anmer]

this box have ATC Audio too.

And how can the audio be used?

[IanH]

Looked today and I see  that Radarbox24 site has added ATC audio so suspect Airnav will be taking both positions and audio from each Comstation and sharing it on Radarbox24.