new CityJet Sukhoi

[KeithH]

I wasn't sure where to put this question so here goes.

I have noticed that the new Superjet flown by CityJet do not plot on my Basestation.  FR24 appears to rely on MLAT to show it.

I thought all new aircraft had to have full SBS.  Or have CityJet elected to turn it off?

Anyone know the reason please?

Keith

[Anmer]

Possibly not using ADS-B.

What's the registration or hex code?

Edit,  EI-FWA 4CA6C5.

[KeithH]

Possibly not using ADS-B.

What's the registration or hex code?

Edit,  EI-FWA 4CA6C5.

Yep, that's the one!  I think that's the only one they have at the moment.

[KeithH]

Possibly not using ADS-B.

What's the registration or hex code?

Edit,  EI-FWA 4CA6C5.

Wasn't there a change in that all new aircraft above a certain weight had to have full ADS-B.  All ATR's now have it (I believe).

[Anmer]

Not sure if this is the current position?

Eurocontrol:

For Aircraft with a Civilian Registration:

Aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s (i.e. with SI code capability) transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS) capability. The applicability dates for this requirement is:

    8 January 2015 for "new" aircraft, i.e. aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued on or after 8 January 2015
    7 December 2017 for aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 8 January 2015

Aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe and with a maximum certified take-off mass exceeding 5 700 kg or having a maximum cruising true airspeed capability greater than 250 knots are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS), Enhanced Surveillance (EHS) (for fixed wing aircraft) and ADS-B 1090MHZ Extended Squitter (ES) capabilities. The applicability dates for this requirement is:

    8 June 2016 for "new" aircraft, i.e. aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued on or after 8 June 2016
    7 June 2020 for aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 8 June 2016

Note that aircraft operating under a civilian registration that do not meet specific criteria may be granted an exemption against the Mode S EHS requirements.

For State Registered Aircraft:

All State aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS) capability by 7th December 2017.

    Member States shall communicate and justify to the European Commission a list of State aircraft that cannot be equipped with ELS in due time before 1 July 2016.

All fixed wing transport-type State aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe and with a maximum certified take-off mass exceeding 5 700 kg or having a maximum cruising true airspeed capability greater than 250 knots are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS), Enhanced Surveillance (EHS) and ADS-B 1090MHz Extended Squitter (ES) capabilities by 7 June 2020.

    The equivalent deadline for the communication of a list and justification of State aircraft that cannot be equipped in due time with EHS and ADS-B is 1 July 2018.

Rationale behind the above justifications may be compelling technical reasons, procurement constraints and State aircraft going out of service before 1 January 2020. In case of procurement constraints Member states' justification shall include the pertinent procurement plans.

http://www.eurocontrol.int/spi-ir

[KeithH]

Not sure if this is the current position?

Eurocontrol:

For Aircraft with a Civilian Registration:

Aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s (i.e. with SI code capability) transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS) capability. The applicability dates for this requirement is:

    8 January 2015 for "new" aircraft, i.e. aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued on or after 8 January 2015
    7 December 2017 for aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 8 January 2015

Aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe and with a maximum certified take-off mass exceeding 5 700 kg or having a maximum cruising true airspeed capability greater than 250 knots are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS), Enhanced Surveillance (EHS) (for fixed wing aircraft) and ADS-B 1090MHZ Extended Squitter (ES) capabilities. The applicability dates for this requirement is:

    8 June 2016 for "new" aircraft, i.e. aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued on or after 8 June 2016
    7 June 2020 for aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 8 June 2016

Note that aircraft operating under a civilian registration that do not meet specific criteria may be granted an exemption against the Mode S EHS requirements.

For State Registered Aircraft:

All State aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS) capability by 7th December 2017.

    Member States shall communicate and justify to the European Commission a list of State aircraft that cannot be equipped with ELS in due time before 1 July 2016.

All fixed wing transport-type State aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe and with a maximum certified take-off mass exceeding 5 700 kg or having a maximum cruising true airspeed capability greater than 250 knots are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS), Enhanced Surveillance (EHS) and ADS-B 1090MHz Extended Squitter (ES) capabilities by 7 June 2020.

    The equivalent deadline for the communication of a list and justification of State aircraft that cannot be equipped in due time with EHS and ADS-B is 1 July 2018.

Rationale behind the above justifications may be compelling technical reasons, procurement constraints and State aircraft going out of service before 1 January 2020. In case of procurement constraints Member states' justification shall include the pertinent procurement plans.

http://www.eurocontrol.int/spi-ir

Thanks Anmer!  Not sure what the weights are of the SuperJet (must look it up). 

[Triple7]

Aircraft operating IFR/GAT in Europe and with a maximum certified take-off mass exceeding 5 700 kg or having a maximum cruising true airspeed capability greater than 250 knots are required to carry and operate Mode S Level 2s transponder(s) with Mode S Elementary Surveillance (ELS), Enhanced Surveillance (EHS) (for fixed wing aircraft) and ADS-B 1090MHZ Extended Squitter (ES) capabilities. The applicability dates for this requirement is:

    8 June 2016 for "new" aircraft, i.e. aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued on or after 8 June 2016
    7 June 2020 for aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 8 June 2016

Well it certainly weighs more than 5.7 tonnes (45.8 tonnes MTOW - according to Wikipedia) and cruises at 448 knots.

I guess it falls into the 7th June 2020 category as it probably had an airworthiness cert issued before 8th June - delivered 2nd June according to PB.

Tim

[Anmer]

Well, the latest delivery has ADS-B:

http://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php/topic,6178.msg30333.html#msg30333

[KeithH]

Well, the latest delivery has ADS-B:

http://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php/topic,6178.msg30333.html#msg30333

Yes, just noticed the latest one does plot.  I assume the next ones will too.