Trying to get this working with an SBS-1e

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I have an SBS-1e feeding SBS1 client via MultiEM which appears to be working fine.  I can run Basestation on the same machine and use either ports 20060 to take the local feed from MultiEM or 20072 to take the shared feed from the SBS1 client.  I have installed Virtual Radar Server on the same machine, mainly so that I can monitor traffic away from the PC in another room using a Macbook.  I am not sure if I have Virtual Radar Server set up correctly though as the feed status in VRS has nothing tracked although the receiver reports connected.  I have it set for port 20060 on the MultiEM.  MultiEM shows it connected but 0 kBit/s throughput.  In the settings there is no choice for SBS-1e but it is set at SBS-3.  Is this correct.  The connection tests ok.  Any ideas?

[Anmer]

A diagram would help 

Is it:

SBS-1e -> MultiEM -> SBS1 Client -> BaseStation?

Where does VRS sit in the above, assuming I've understood the flow path correctly?

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That's the flow exactly.  Basestation can either come from the  SBS1 Client (port 20072) or from MultiEM on port 20060.  I use the latter to monitor my own traffic only (before it goes to SBS1 Client.  I tried Virtual Radar Server on port 20060 also which I hope would give me a method of linking in remote to see my traffic on the Macbook.  I did this with and without Basestation running in case it was a confliction.  Also tried VRS on port 20072 ( the Basestation feed from SBS1 Client). 

[Anmer]

Thanks.

Been a while since I used MultiEM or VRS.

Does VRS work if you run it off SBS1 Client without BaseStation running?

And have you tried running VRS off BaseStation's port 30003 output?

[IanH]

I would suggest trying ModeSMixer as a replacement for MultiEM.

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I only use MultiEM so that I have a method of monitoring my own traffic only.  And VRS seemed like a good idea to give me a method of monitoring on the Macbook. 

No it doesnt run off the SBS1 Client with or without basestation running.  I tried running VRS from multiEM alone without SBS1 Client running also.   

Just tried running VRS from the SBS1's output port which on mine seems to be 10001 not 30003.  I am now getting bad messages counting up.  It's up to 24,000+ bad messages and 1 Total Message which is probably a fluke.  I should have the receiver format set to SBS-3 Raw Feed in VRS shouldn't I?  There is no SBS-1 or 1e option.

[Wrongway]

I would suggest trying ModeSMixer as a replacement for MultiEM.

MultiEM has worked great until this problem and I don't think it's MultiEM thats at fault.  Does ModeSMixer have any advantages?

[IanH]

I just tend to use ModeSMixer these days instead of MultiEM since it offers me more flexibility and I don't have to remember two different programs 

I'll see if I can set up MultiEM again and try connecting to VRS.

[Anmer]

One thing to remember about MultiEM is that Kinetic "blocked" the multiple BaseStation sessions in a later release.

I don't think this should affect your setup but maybe bearing in mind.

Have you managed to get VRS to work of any configuration?

[IanH]

Seems like MultiEM outputs SBS10001 format data from port 20060 which VRS doesn't recognise so that is not going to work.

Instead try connecting VRS to port 30003 which the Basestation software generates.

Edit:
And having just read Mike's post, MultiEM is working here sending from an SBS-1e to Basestation 184.

[Anmer]

And having just read Mike's post, MultiEM is working here sending from an SBS-1e to Basestation 184.

Before Kinetic "blocked" the option, MultiEM enabled multiple BaseStation sessions to a single, Ethernet enabled SBS-1.

See page 26 of my Guide:

http://radarspotting.com/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item16

The "output" port can be set to other than 20060 but the format is the same as that coming from the SBS-1, probably why VRS can't use it.  Kinetic changed the spec in a later BaseStation release so that it couldn't use the MultiEM output.  Kinetic thought it was damaging SBS-1 sales!  Methinks there were (are) bigger threats than MultiEM.

But VRS should be able to use BaseStation's 30003 output.

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That's odd I can't seem to have any luck with port 30003 at all from the SBS.  I have tried setting the format in VRS to SBS-3 Raw Feed  and Basestation. 

I think I am going to end up using Teamviewer.  Though I did like the look of using Google Maps.

[IanH]

Thanks Mike for the details - I came into this late and don't know the history.

But VRS should be able to use BaseStation's 30003 output.

It does - I've tested it.

That's odd I can't seem to have any luck with port 30003 at all from the SBS

You need to enter the IP address of the PC running the Basestation software. not the SBS. If it is the same one running VRS, use 127.0.0.1. "Basestation" is the input type for VRS to use.

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Now I am getting somewhere.  I didn't realise it was Basestation that was outputting on port 30003.  I had assumed that would have been another port out of the SBS-1.  The server is getting data now and aircraft tracked column is counting up. 

Having a problem with the Virtual Radar web page now.  It shows the number of contacts in brackets on the tab but nothing is listed or shown on the map.

** However **  I just tried logging into it from my Macbook and it works.  So must be something on the PC that the viewer doesnt like.  Only difference I can see so far is the one that doesn't work is in Internet Explorer and my Macbook is running Chrome.  Will load Chrome onto the server machine and try.

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Yes that's it.  Didn't like Internet Explorer.  Don't blame it 

Thank's both for the fantastic help.  Still got some hair left as well