Help with networking SBS-1er

[alpha60uk]

Hi triple7 thanks for the reply there is some progress but still not working, this is what comes up in the modesmixer2 window
2022-01-29 13:36:15.404  INFO     ModeSMixer2 v.20180616
2022-01-29 13:36:15.413  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) started
2022-01-29 13:36:15.445  INFO     inConnect(192.168.1.170:10001) connecting 192.168.1.170:10001
2022-01-29 13:36:16.104  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:63351 connected
2022-01-29 13:36:17.518  ERROR    inConnect(192.168.1.170:10001) connect host 192.168.1.170:10001 error No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it

once again thanks

Dean

[Triple7]

Hi Dean,

You mentioned you can connect to your SBS-1er when using BaseStation I assume the IP address of your SBS is the default one of 192.168.1.170 and your local network is using the same structure / subnet?

The error messge infers MSM2 cannot find your SBS so I would check the network settings first to make sure everythnng is using the same structure. Can you Ping your SBS?

Tim

[alpha60uk]

Hi Tim,

pinged the SBS-1eR at 192.168.1.170


C:\Users\User>ping 192.168.1.170

Pinging 192.168.1.170 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.170: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.170: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.170: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.170: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.170:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 1ms

so that works and that is feeding my host pc BaseStation using the network source 192.168.1.170:10001

I changed the .bat script to

@echo off
cmd /c c:/modeSmixer2/modesmixer2.exe --inConnect 127.0.0.1:10001 --outServer sbs10001:10001
PAUSE
exit

and i get this when i run it

2022-01-29 15:11:28.846  INFO     ModeSMixer2 v.20180616
2022-01-29 15:11:28.856  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) started
2022-01-29 15:11:28.873  INFO     inConnect(127.0.0.1:10001) connecting 127.0.0.1:10001
2022-01-29 15:11:28.873  INFO     inConnect(127.0.0.1:10001) connected
2022-01-29 15:11:28.873  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 127.0.0.1:58582 connected
2022-01-29 15:11:28.873  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 127.0.0.1:58582 SBS-3 LOGIN
2022-01-29 15:11:28.873  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 127.0.0.1:58582 SBS-3 LOGIN
2022-01-29 15:11:28.874  INFO     inConnect(127.0.0.1:10001) SBS-3 LOGIN OK
2022-01-29 15:11:28.874  INFO     SBS-3 S/N:123456   FW version: 119 FPGA: 3.01 UI Version: 1.19
2022-01-29 15:11:28.874  INFO     inConnect(127.0.0.1:10001) SBS data stream detected
2022-01-29 15:11:29.130  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:50845 connected
2022-01-29 15:11:34.064  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:50845 SBS-3 LOGIN

the other pc is connecting but there is no data coming through

[Triple7]

so that works and that is feeding my host pc BaseStation using the network source 192.168.1.170:10001

If I am reading this correctly you are conencting one PC directly to the SBS which means the feed is locked, as you have found, you can normally only use the SBS feed with one copy of BaseStation hence why you want to use MSM2. That probably exaplins why MSM2 gave the error you mentoned before.

You need both of your PC's running BaseSataion to point at the IP address of the feed from MSM2 - see Faramir's post earlier.

127.0.0.1:10001 is probably the correct IP address to enter in BaseStation - Settings>>Hardware settings, Network tab on the PC running MSM2. But the other PC will need to use correct IP of the machine running MSM2. You can use the true IP address of the host machine on both copies of BaseStaion if you like.

Try the above and see. I have a feeling that you won't get any data on either machine as I am fairly sure MSM2 needs the IP addess of the SBS in its command line otherwise it won't know where to look to grab the data stream. If you have your SBS connected directly to the first PC (via cross-over cable perhaps?) then the 127.0.0.1 address should work, but I suspect your SBS is elsewhere and attached to your LAN via the router?

Tim

[alpha60uk]

Hi Tim that is correct the SBS-1eR is connected via LAN to my router not directly to the host pc

the basestation on the host PC is connected via 192.168.1.170 port 10001 which as you say is the default the datastream and is working fine.

As you say any attempts from any other pc to connect to 192.168.1.170 seem to be blocked.

Are you using a cross-over cable? Can i just buy one? and connnect the SBS-1eR to my host I think I have had it for today I really appreciate all your help thanks you so much

maybe if you explain your set up I can duplicate it

All the best

Dean

[Anmer]

the basestation on the host PC is connected via 192.168.1.170 port 10001 which as you say is the default the datastream and is working fine.

As you say any attempts from any other pc to connect to 192.168.1.170 seem to be blocked.

I'm sure Tim will confirm but you need to close down the Basestation session that's connected to 192.168.1.170 port 10001.  It's this connection that's blocking MSM2 from connecting to your SBS-1eR.

Basically, this is the required connection "map":

SBS-1eR <- MSM2 <- Basestation sessions(s)

The IP address and port for the SBS-1eR are fixed at 192.168.1.170:10001.

With MSM2 running and connected to the SBS-1eR, the Basestation Network connection(s) will use the local IP address of the PC running MSM2 and the assigned port.

[Triple7]

No need for a crossover cable the way you have things is just fine!

My set-up is SBS in loft connected via LAN cable to a PLA (Power Line Adaptor). Router is downstairs next to the master socket. Second PLA connects directly into one of the Router's LAN ports. That's the (relevant) hardware bit.

Now the software bits and the area I believe is causing you the problem.

I have 2 PC's, a Desktop and a Laptop. The desktop runs MSM2 with a command line as below. Both run BaseStation and importantly, both have the LAN settings pointing at the MSM2 feed. So, in my case 192.168.1.67 - see image attached. That's the Desktop PC but I have elected to use the full IP address of that machine so it's clear to me where it is looking. As I noted before, the 127.0.0.1  (local host) should work OK for the machine running MSM2 – but not the second one.

Code Select Expand

@echo off
cmd /c  modesmixer2.exe --inConnect 192.168.1.170:10001 --outServer sbs10001:10001
PAUSE
exit


So, I agree with Anmer your issue is that BaseStation is using the IP address of the SBS and therefore locking the feed for anything else - you need to change the network settings to suit your main PC, replacing the 192.168.1.67 in my image attached with the correct IP address of your main machine (or use 127.0.0.1) and on the second PC you must use the IP address the main machine - 192.168.1.67 in my case. I am sure if you reset the network settings in BaseStation and revert back to the original MSM2 command line as above, things will spring into life and you will have a very satisfied grin on your face :-)

Tim

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[alpha60uk]

Once again thanks Tim and Anmer,

So I closed the basestation session on the host pc 192.168.1.226, that i had running connected to 192.168.1.170:10001 this was obviously blocking the MMS2 from connection to the SBS-1eR.

I start MMS2 with this script
@echo off
cmd /c  c:/modeSmixer2/modesmixer2.exe --inConnect 192.168.1.170:10001 --outServer sbs10001:10001
PAUSE
exit

this is from the MMC2 window
2022-01-29 19:04:46.947  INFO     ModeSMixer2 v.20180616
2022-01-29 19:04:46.962  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) started
2022-01-29 19:04:46.978  INFO     inConnect(192.168.1.170:10001) connecting 192.168.1.170:10001
2022-01-29 19:04:46.978  INFO     inConnect(192.168.1.170:10001) connected
my laptop logs in
2022-01-29 19:04:52.516  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:54943 connected
2022-01-29 19:04:53.953  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:54941 connected
2022-01-29 19:04:54.031  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:54941 disconnected
2022-01-29 19:04:58.522  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.217:54943 SBS-3 LOGIN
I start basestation on the host pc
2022-01-29 19:05:43.881  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.226:62030 connected
2022-01-29 19:05:48.826  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.226:62030 SBS-3 LOGIN

both laptop 192.168.217 and host 192.168.1.226 show connected but no data appears in either session basestation
the green light is not on on SBS-1eR
it is only on if I connect directly to 192.168.1.170:10001

I have tried starting the host pc with basestation to connect to 192.168.1.170:10001 green light is on
I switch over to 192.168.1.226
start MMS2
i lose the data but basestation says its connected

Doh!!!!!

I think I'll try again tomorrow

[Anmer]

When you state:

my laptop logs in

What are you running on your laptop that "logs in"?

What is the local IP address of the PC running MSM2?

If you have MSM2 successfully connecting to your SBS-1eR (which it appears to be), then your Basestation setup should use the IP address of the MSM2 PC, as explained in Tim's last message.  Make sure Basestation has Data Source set to "Use Network".

[Triple7]

Just to clarify. You only need to run MSM2 on one PC. It looks like you might be trying to run a copy on both your laptop 192.168.1.217 and your main machine 192.168.1.226 - don't!

Just fire up MSM2 on your main machine, make the changes to BaseStation on boith machines and try that.

Tim

[alpha60uk]

Hi Anmer

What are you running on your laptop that "logs in"?

Basestation, network settings 192.168.1.226:10001 this is the IP of the host pc

yes i am only running MMS2 on the host

I just tried using the laptop as the host (just running MMS2 on that) and again both connect but no data coming into either basestation session

2022-01-30 13:24:53.724  INFO     ModeSMixer2 v.20180616
2022-01-30 13:24:53.731  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) started
2022-01-30 13:24:53.752  INFO     inConnect(192.168.1.170:10001) connecting 192.168.1.170:10001
2022-01-30 13:24:53.754  INFO     inConnect(192.168.1.170:10001) connected
2022-01-30 13:24:55.543  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.226:52000 connected
2022-01-30 13:25:00.520  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 192.168.1.226:52000 SBS-3 LOGIN
2022-01-30 13:25:04.493  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 127.0.0.1:49775 connected
2022-01-30 13:25:09.494  INFO     outServer(sbs10001:10001) 127.0.0.1:49775 SBS-3 LOGIN

last night i tested MMS2 to forward a data from a Pizero2 which is running a feed to pi aware and that worked fine

still confused as to why no data is coming through despite connection and why green light is dissappearing form SBS-1er

Tim said
Just to clarify. You only need to run MSM2 on one PC. It looks like you might be trying to run a copy on both your laptop 192.168.1.217 and your main machine 192.168.1.226 - don't!
does this mean I have to remove completely MMS2 from the laptop? I have only been running it on one machine at a time ie which ever is the the host mainly the 226 the PC

[Anmer]

Is Basestation set to "Use Network"?

Settings -> Data Source -> Use Network

[alpha60uk]

yes it is on both host and laptop

[Anmer]

yes it is on both host and laptop

Thanks.  I assume you can see both PCs connected to your router in its admin?

[Anmer]

Maybe I've got this wrong but in MSM2 you've set the outgoing ports to 49775 and 52000.

Should your Basestation connection use one of those ports and not 10001?